PBP: EPL: Man City vs Manchester United Sun 3 Mar 2024 [R]

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  1. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

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    Competition:
    English Premier League Matchweek 27
    Venue: Emptyhad Stadium, Manchester
    Date: Sunday 3rd March 2024
    Time: 15:30 (GMT) 10:30 (ET) 7:30 (PT)
    TV: Sky Sports (UK) Peacock (USA) fuboTV (Canada)

    Referee: Andy Madley
    VAR: Stuart Attwell

    Man Utd Next Fixture: EPL: Man Utd v Everton Sat 9th Mar 2024 12:30
    • Would have been tough anyway, but with the injuries too ...
     
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  2. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    From losing to Fulham last minute to beating NF last minute. That Sunday training session may have paid off. Tenny has shown he can squeeze these lemons, sort of.



    Difficult to get a positive result for this one though. So long as we don't allow them to run away with it and show something, make a game of it, that will be enough for me.
     
  3. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    in the name of science i'd be curious to know what percentage chance the forum members think we have of winning this.

    i'd wager ~5% personally
     
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  4. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Depends on EtH tactics - but yeah pretty low chance as above for sure.

    This is a game (even more so given it is away) that needs him to go back to playing two #6s - otherwise they will kill us in the middle of the pitch.

    So if he sticks with playing two high #8s and our frequent huge gaps in the middle we are proper effed and will be a humiliation.

    Will never happen but would be interesting to see Cas / Amrabat as pair of #6s with Mainoo playing #8. Would need to go kind of back 3 to facilitate.

    We actually did this a bit against Forrest and EtH said as much in his post-match. First half we had various people dropping back alongside Cas in our 3-2 build up and in the second half we switched to it almost always being Amrabat inverting from full back in there as another #6.

    Obviously not a good comparison for the City game in that we had good possession v Forrest and definitely will not have much v City. City don't use the width much though - so Amrabat could play as a narrow LB coming more into midfield and Dalot could play as a narrow RB coming into make it more like a back 3. Would leave Mainoo free to try and pick up and disrupt KDB.
     
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  5. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Red Card

    Apr 10, 2010
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    I’d say 5% chance of winning is about right. Would need something odd to happen like a red for them.
     
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  6. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    He needs to take a page out of Ole's book, and just play a dense low block and boot the ball through to Rashford/Garnacho over and over again; and just hope one of them scores on a 1v1.
     
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  7. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    Whenever I see a question like this, I immediately want to go against the grain. It's my personality. We have a 95% chance of winning.
     
  8. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    0%
     
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  9. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    Fine.



    100% we win.
     
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  10. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    A low block is the right approach, but ten Hag is in a pickle. He has to show he's the right manager to Ratcliffe if he's to keep his job. This is the game to take that gamble IMO.

    There is a compromise to how ten Hag can play with two 8s. He can drop a forward, go with a front two of Rashford and Garnacho/Antony, play Bruno and McT as eights, with Mainoo and Casemiro mopping up behind them. It can work like this if Bruno tends to drop back a bit more and McT gets forward to act at times like a third attacker. Really we can't change the shape too much, it would still be like a 4-2-3-1, but with Scott sometimes acting as a CF and Rashford slotting wide to his more comfortable role. We defend in 4-4-2.

    A big key will be our cynicism and physicality. We can't let Haaland and KdB have a go at us. We need to frustrate with cheap fouls and be physical. Casemiro, McT and Maguire (Evans?) are capable of containing them if we play that way. We'd have to revert back to very direct approach when in possession, even if that means high turnovers.

    We can score, but it's far from given. Bruno can score from speculative and spectacular efforts (Luton scored two such goals). McT has an eagerness in front of goal to get on the end of chances and he can bundle it home. Rashford and Garnacho have that pace to get behind the defense when City are higher. Moments of class from Mainoo or whoever can make the difference too.
     
  11. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
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    Mar 31, 2007
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    Portugal
    Well played
     
  12. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Red Card

    Apr 10, 2010
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    Hard pass on watching this. Going golfing and if I see a respectable score I’ll watch the replay.
     
  13. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    Man City team: Ederson, Walker, Stones, Dias, Aké, Rodri, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Foden, Doku, Haaland.

    Subs: Ortega Moreno, Kovačić, Álvarez, Gómez, Gvardiol, Akanji, Nunes, Bobb, Lewis.

    Man Utd team: Onana, Dalot, Varane, Evans, Lindelöf, Mainoo, Casemiro, McTominay, Fernandes, Rashford, Garnacho.

    Subs: Bayındır, Kambwala, Ogunneye, Amad, Amrabat, Collyer, Eriksen, Forson, Antony.
     
  14. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
  15. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Garnacho should have sent that across a touch earlier.
     
  16. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
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    Ghana
    Sometimes this dribble out the back nonsense is too much. Just hoof it 60 yards down and reset. Better than a turnover at 30
     
  17. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

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    Jun 30, 2013
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    OMFFFFFFFFFG
     
  18. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Raaaaassshhh!!

    I take it all back!!!
     
  19. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
  20. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a save from Onana!!!
     
  21. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rash could have a hatty if he could handle the ball.
     
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  22. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Rash will get a second. He has had a couple of close ones.

    They are playing better than I expected. The early goal helps.
     
  23. Brilliant Oranje

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Mar 4, 2023
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    Nat'l Team:
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    Ten Hag is playing it smart.
    Sit back, defend, and then hit City on counter-attacks
     
  24. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    De Bruyne hasn’t been the same since he decided to get a Jack Grealish haircut
     
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  25. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    How did Harland miss an open goal from 1 yard?
     
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