I don't think Lloyd Kelly is realistic atm. He still harbours ambitions to play for England and he is playing at a high level for a big club
Shows how lopsided England’s production line is when you look at the Jamaica eligible options. Attackers looks pretty strong but the other areas are almost non-existent. Why haven’t they taken Lewis Baker? Surely he is exactly what they want.
Rayan Oyebade (West Ham) called up to Greece's U19s. Eligible for them through his mother, he previously played for us at U15 level.
Complicated passport situation - he qualifies through paternal grandparents whose documentation has errors here and there and is difficult to track down in the first place. He has been working with the Jamaican federation for months now trying to resolve it, but it will take a while to smooth everything out. I think less than half of them are realistic and we will see 1 or 2 more names off that squad list in the next 12 months or so, at most, but its still interesting to see what the potential pool could look like at its broadest. Kelly seems unrealistic, although I suspect he is unlikely to ever play for England either. Even if he were realistic for Jamaica, I have to wonder if his passport situation may not be similarly complicated as Bakers given that he wasnt always around his parents as a kid.
By CONCACAF standards (no disrespect intended whatsoever), that team does probably have top quality in every position tbf. Jamaica would qualify for every World Cup imo if they could recruit 5-6 of those names.
Kelly and McNeil would be big gets for them. It appears that McNeil is out of favour at Everton so getting in the England squad is a really long way off at the moment. I always liked Cameron Archer but he's hardly excelling in The Championship this season, maybe he'd do well playing for a smaller nation like Jamaica.
As @horrisengleton noted, that claim is definitely relative. None of these players are world class, but in CONCACAF most would be within the regional top tier. A good few of these guys (I would say at least Rowe, Henry, Anthony, McNeil, and Kelly, probably also Brown) are solid EPL-caliber players and most teams in CONCACAF dont have any of those, much less multiple of them. True Grant is the only player here who I dont think lands in or very close to the regional top tier, but he would still make most rosters and be a likely starter for most teams outside the regions top 10 or 12 teams or so (many teams below that level just dont have a fully professional player at the position). Even someone like Aarons, who is a fringe EPL guy, would upgrade nearly every RB spot in the region. Only the USA, Mexico, Panama (Murillo) and Canada (Johnston) have RBs that are right about on par or above a player like Aarons. Brooks, another very good Championship footballer who gets fringe EPL conversations, would be the most valuable central midfielder in the region outside of the USA, Mexico, or Canada, with the exception of Jean-Ricner Bellegarde (a recently recruited Haitian dual who is a pretty solidly EPL/Top 5 League-caliber footballer), Carrasquila (Panama, plays in Mexico) and arguably Bacuna (Curacao).
He played for us against Sunderland in the PL Cup too but think he is very much doing the rounds with his trials over the next few weeks/months - heard Arsenal and a couple of German clubs in addition to Ipswich so going through his options presumably ahead of January
The Daily Mail have an article by Oliver Holt where he says Mason Greenwood wants to play for England again so won’t be switching to Jamaica (And that Jamaica expected him to appear at a training camp and he didn’t.) It also says the French Media have published more about why his court case collapsed that UK laws prevent.
Is there ever a world in which this could actually happen? How come he was all in with Jamaica and then just changed his mind? I’m wondering if he’s been given some sort of encouragement from within the England camp that may lead him to think he still has a chance.
The FA would face outrage if that ever leaked so surely they not that stupid. Feel more like his agent and maybe Marseille and Manchester United (Who profit on future sales of him) encouraged him through,
If he was ever to play for England again then he needs to publicly show remorse for his actions all those years ago and that he’s a changed man. I don’t necessarily like it but we live in a society of second chances and if he and his current wife/girlfriend show he’s a changed man then it would be a start. I’m not for one instance saying he should be recalled but showing regret would be a start just for his public image.
I'm fluent in French and I don't think that's true. All the articles I can find just repeat what the CPS gave as the reason, i.e. the withdrawal of key witnesses and the introduction of unspecified new material. Certainly nothing that would change anyone's perspective on him.
Yeah perhaps. I don’t know how I’d feel about him playing for us tbh. Part of me thinks he was never found guilty in a court of law so he has every right to forge a future for himself. The other part of me heard all the tapes etc and he sounded very abusive to his partner. We’ve done a lot, as a national team to repair our image with supporters over the last few years (especially gaining more women supporters and lgbt). I don’t think them kinds of fans would take to it in all honesty.
Whats the quote on this from the Daily Mail, it's behind a paywall and I doubt anyone has a premium subscription with the Daily Mail. I have my doubts this is true because we'd see someone post about it on social media.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...iver-Holt.html?ico=authors_pagination_desktop ‘Perceptions of Greenwood’s case are also different in France because the French media openly discuss the details of the charges that were made against him and the reason why the case collapsed. In the UK, the media is prevented from discussing those details by reporting restrictions designed to protect victims.’ Earlier in the article it says ‘But Greenwood, 24, did not turn up for a Jamaica training camp he had been expected to attend and at Marseille, they say it is because the striker, who is an outcast and an exile from the English game, has become obsessed by an impossible dream. Greenwood still believes he can play for England again.’
There's no way they are discussing new details that aren't or haven't been discussed heavily on social media already.
I think I'd stop supporting England if Greenwood ever played for us tbh. A guilty verdict wasn't reached because witnesses withdrew essential evidence, which essentially halted the case before it ever reached court. Given he ended up back with his partner and having a baby with her, it's overwhelmingly likely that for whatever reason, she decided she wanted to brush the whole ordeal under the carpet and resume their relationship (which is extremely typical in cases of domestic abuse, either as a result of fear or trauma bonding), not that none of it actually happened or he wasn't guilty of domestic abuse. Evidence can't get much more conclusive than the recording we all heard.
Yeah that’s a fair point. I think England would lose a few supporters if he ever came back into the fold.