English players Dual Nationality thread #2

Discussion in 'England' started by roverman, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    There´s a Jahmi Kellyman from Aston Villa in Northern Ireland´s U17 qualifiers squad, so suppose he´s Omari´s yoinger brother. Probably will stick with them considering his brother never really had a chance to play for England and basically wasted his one-time switch for some youth caps. Although I´ve heard some rumours (and I´ll leave it at that: rumours) that he had to deal with something that could be interpreted as racist remarks towards him and his family in Northern Ireland which made him shut down the door to represent them for good but again just some rumours I´ve come across at that time so who knows if this was the reasoning behind his early switch.
     
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  2. Athlone

    Athlone Member+

    Feb 2, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    I think @horrisengleton had a good take on him last year:

    I responded then and still believe that this is a good take and he's exactly the kind of late-bloomer recruit that most enhances the player pool. Most of the EPL players in our pool tend to fit this late-blooming mold. He may not quite be "the Championship's best winger" as the article implies but he is quite good, certainly near the top of the division, and while already entering his prime and near peak of what he'll be could still be a fringe EPL contributor at some point soon.

    There is hesitation to add new players to the pool this late in qualifying, so I don't know that he will make it for this cycle unless he has papers in hand to join camp in November. But either way, it's a good addition.
     
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  3. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Any developments on Greenwood? It looks like he's not interested in international football
     
  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Not on his nationality but

    Barcelona lead the chase for Marseille's England forward Mason Greenwood, though Tottenham and West Ham are also interested in the 24-year-old. (Teamtalk)

    Can’t say I will be pleased if he comes to West Ham.
     
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  5. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Its simply not true, so you don't have to worry about it
     
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  6. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He's having a good season is Mason-Clark. Would be a good pickup for Jamaica and there's every chance he'll be a PL player next season.
     
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  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Coventry are probably going to do a Sunderland and replace much of their squad if they come up.
     
  9. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    He could become a big star in Thailand and earn quite a lot of money through that. His career trajectory isn't looking that good at the moment with him falling down the levels and currently playing from the bench in League 2, could be the best move for his career. He'll probably go and play in the Thai league for a decent wage.

    Thailand also have another English dual in their squad that I've never heard of

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Davis_(footballer,_born_2000)
     
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  10. Athlone

    Athlone Member+

    Feb 2, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    As I suggested last year in the post below, this is his chance to be a "national starman" - if you have heritage from a sizable football mad country that isn't great at football, go all-in with a pedigree from a much stronger football nation + club system and become the big fish in the smaller pond. It's a smart play for him long term. Elkan Baggott (2.3 million IG followers), Zidane Iqbal (1.8 million IG followers) and now Hamza Choudhury (1.2 million IG followers) have all run this play to great success, and Iqbal has Iraq playing well enough to possibly net a world cup appearance in the process.

    Soonsup-Bell (112,000 IG followers - gotta get those numbers up!) is a good looking kid with a marketable profile and, while not a top tier league-caliber talent, more than enough ability to be a long-term positive contributor at or above the League 2 standard of play (which is basically where the analytics say the Thai Premier League is, do there's a long term option for him). And that's assuming he doesn't get any better (still only 21). Ben Davis (170,000 IG followers) has begun running this playbook pretty well early on and should be able to provide some tips.

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/e...ality-thread-2.2111677/page-224#post-42258755

    Nothing new. He does not want to play for Jamaica, and I maintain that Jamaica's last approach should have been his final opportunity to do so (we will see if Jamaica sticks to that).
     
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  11. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That's pure unfounded speculation.
     
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  12. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    I disagree. As a Coventry fan, we’ve actually used a lot of academy players over the last few seasons. Also we’ve bought a lot of English talent.
    The irony is, we may end up becoming a Fulham in the sense that most of our English players will declare for another country before they even get chance to test themselves in the premier league.
    Think we’ve got 5 or 6 players who have declared for other countries so far.
     
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  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Talksport are saying Ghana are hoping to pressure Josh Acheampong to switch in time for the World Cup.
     
  14. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Pressure?? What are they going to do?
     
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  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I meant persuade.
     
  16. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I would be surprised if he switches anytime soon, surely Ghana must have enquired before and been rebuffed. Having said that, it would be gutting to lose out on him over someone like Dan Burn who likely won’t be around after the World Cup. I mean if he continues to play a lot of minutes at Chelsea then it shouldn’t rule out Acheampong getting a call up but then again Tuchel won’t care about the long term unlike us.
     
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  17. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Kieran Morrison making his full Liverpool debut tonight. He's 2006 born, from Manchester but capped by NI up to U21 level. Similar play style and appearance to Curtis Jones.
     
  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Chelsea defender Josh Acheampong is being courted by the Ghana national team ahead of the 2026 World Cup - The Sun.
     
  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Ghana can court him all they want. I tried to court Jessica Biel but I got an an injuction put out on me. It's not going to happen
     
  20. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    This is about the 5th article/headline you've posted, that is essentially saying nothing. Just that Ghana are interested in Acheampong, which is obvious and has likely always been the case, as he's a good player and he's eligible for them. Them not holding an interest would be negligent.
     
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  21. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Callum Osmand scored for Celtic, in the he Scottish cup semi finals pretty certain he's actually ineligible for Wales despite playing making an appearance, he's from Jersey and I think he qualifies for a England could be an option for the 21s this cycle.
     
  22. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    I could be wrong on this, but I thought anyone born in the Channel Islands can represent any home nation?
     
  23. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    No that's changed, there was a change in the home nations agreement, they need a link to one of the home nations to play for them.
     
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  24. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Yes as the channel islands is under the English fa they can only play for England
     
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  25. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    #7425 Iansutton270390, Nov 2, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2025
    Ahh right so they’re viewed as English in the eyes of the FA and fifa.
    I’ve always found it interesting how they would view their identity when it comes to international football. Like do they affiliate with and support England? Or do they generally support all home nations?
    They are an FA affiliate which would suggest they consider themselves England supporters, even though they aren’t strictly English.
     
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