English players Dual Nationality thread #2

Discussion in 'England' started by roverman, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    It is bizarre how players can be described as average when they simply have to be better all round players than the vast majority of those in the older eras.

    That is just the way the game has evolved. You have to be very competent at everything.
     
  2. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I'd rather have one world class superstar striker who's always fit than 3 or 4 lower league strikers like Scotland or Wales or even italy
     
  3. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Rover, did you see the u19s beat Wales 7-0 today?
     
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  4. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    No why
     
  5. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I thought you'd enjoy it given your antipathy to our Welsh brethren.
     
  6. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Oh shit I missed it aj
     
  7. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Yeah I guess that’s true.
    You have to admit though, wouldn’t it be nice to bring on a Michael Owen or Ian wright for when Kane gets injured ;)
     
  8. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    We would likely have to also bring Heskey back to play with them for it to work.
     
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  9. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I've always wondered what if haaland had chosen England. What a player to bring on for kane
     
  10. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Putting Watkins and Nketiah "at a comparable level" feels like a bit of a stretch...
     
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  11. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah I get it probably does based on career achievements but I think they are in terms of talent levels, and I think that's the only way we can compare them right now since Nketiah has played an average of 600 league minutes per season since breaking through as a senior pro.

    Nketiah spending nearly 10 years as a pro at Arsenal playing limited minutes really makes it tough to pin him down as a player. If Watkins came through at Arsenal instead of Exeter and stayed there nearly a decade, I think his career would've been very similar to Nketiah's.

    We'll see over time but I still think Nketiah will have a few seasons as a 15-17 league goal a season striker in the PL (which is largely what Watkins is). His best PL performances (vs. Man Utd at home and Chelsea away) are as good as anything I've seen from an English striker not named Harry Kane in recent years.

    Environment is everything for a player and Nketiah made a series of very poor career decisions. He's had a lot of niggling injuries at times when he's started hitting form in the past too. He's allegedly an excellent pro though and I think he'll make it work at Palace at some point.
     
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  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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    Acheampong and George also being mentioned as possible switchers to Ghana.
     
  13. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    They are not being mentioned as possible switchers. All it says is that they are eligible. Important point.

    The Ghana coach’s video interview here would make it more difficult to bring in CHO or Nketiah. He’s basically saying they wouldn’t speak to him.

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  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    1979573390752333860 is not a valid tweet id

    Posted by that account without any evidence he wants to switch.
     
  15. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Why are you posting it in here then?
     
  16. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Because it’s very well followed account and is big enough that we might get futher talk about it.
     
  17. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    This is what Grok tells me about this account,

    It was previously a popular football-focused account known as @EuropeanLad
    which had amassed over 1 million followers before the original owner sold it. The new management rebranded it to @TouchlineX around mid-2024, shifting to a more sensational style of football coverage, which has drawn criticism for lower-quality content compared to its earlier days
     
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  18. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Mahdi Nicoll-Jazuli has just beaten Dowman's record to become the youngest scorer in UEFA Youth League history. Out of interest does anyone know if he's a dual national? I'm assuming he very likely is but can't find any info online.
     
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  19. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    Funnily enough, I've actually asked the same question on here some time ago. I was assuming he might have Moroccan roots (which would make it hard to keep him in the system long-term) as a good friend of mine is of Moroccan descent and has the surname Jazuli and Mahdi is quite a popular first name there (plus the mentioned player's a devouted Muslim from what I've seen). One poster (believe it might have been @Juni ) was mentioning some links to Australia he's heard about at some point but also how his surname Jazuli is very common in the Muslim parts of Nigeria, so as of now we suppose he has Nigerian background...
     
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  20. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Dowman scored last season at 14 so he still very much holds that record.
     
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  21. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    My first thought was Moroccan. I'm sure we'll find out at some stage but it feels like there's a number of possibilities.

    Fairs, I just glanced at a post on X that claimed it so my bad there.
     
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  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I looked on his Instagram but I couldn’t find any clues. Plenty of pics of him on England duty ut no followers of any other countries account and he follows all the high profile English players of similar age
     
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  23. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    This is the list, he's actually down somewhere around Frankie Runham. What's going on with Frankie these days, do we know?

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/uef.../0?saisonIdVon=2025&saisonIdBis=2013&land_id=
     
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  24. andals

    andals Member

    Jun 13, 2015
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cvg4k3w27x7o

    But who is Nicoll-Jazuli? He was born in Sydney to an Australian mother, while his father hails from a region around the Chad-Sudan border.

    He is playing up an age group with England Under-17s but could also be eligible to play for France, highlighting a potential future international tussle.

    Nicoll-Jazuli's football journey began at Afewee Training Centre, located in Brixton Recreation Centre in south London. He was quickly spotted by Chelsea, Arsenal and Crystal Palace, but opted to join the Blues as a six-year-old, with his younger brother also now at the club.
     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    France is going be a hard one to fend off.
     

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