West Ham's Nicolas Diaz called up to the Dominican Republic U17s. Esta es la lista de jugadores de la Sedofútbol Sub-17 convocados por el profe Edward Acevedo para los partidos de preparación en Costa Rica del 14 al 19 de diciembre de 2024.#sedofutbol pic.twitter.com/4ie2pHEzT7— Selección Dominicana de Futbol (@sedofutbol) December 12, 2024
Buried in this article is the Daily Mail’s Ian Ladyman saying Greenwood is an issue for Tuchel to solve. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ks-former-interim-boss-Lee-Carsley-month.html
It 'buried' because its a throw away line in an opinion piece. There is no issue to solve, he isn't getting picked for England ever again.
Must be about half the nations on earth now (maybe more) we've got English raised and developed players representing. I'll have to work on a list some time, would be interesting!
I think its dangerously naive actually to take social media audio vids at face value, as if it represents some comprehensive truth when often it doesn't. This girl is from a privileged background and stable respectable family, I think chances of her being so recklessly disturbed as to choose to marry and have a family with a man who is raping and assaulting her is slim and the chances of that girl's parents being so morally depraved as to support a man they know to be raping and violently beating up their daughter is significantly slimmer. Not all women are helpless victims with no personal agency or freedom of will. Social media is a toxic wasteland of mistruths and half truths and nobody should be jumping to immediate 'burn the witch' conclusions without there being an investigation in to the full story. Anyone deserves that, even if its easier not to complicate things by delving deeper. Manchester United did this investigation to their credit and determined (based on narratives ,testimony and facts we aren't part to) that he was not guilty of what he is accused of. The FA owe him the same and his rights shouldn't be sacrificed for the sake of certain parties in society who wish to condemn him as an inveterate villain based on a simple narrative that may not be accurate. Truth and justice is what is important and if I believed Greenwood was really guilty of what he is being painted to be then I wouldn't be defending him of wanting him in the squad, would be happy for Jamaica to pick him, who wouldn't be too concerned over such things.
I'm not sure how much of a dog I still have in this fight as I am not terribly optimistic Greenwood will play for us and not 100% I'd want him to given some decisions he's recently made (which I explained elsewhere in the thread). That said, I have to say it: these are some wild takes you're putting out in this thread. They don't make a lot of sense. Yeah, she comes from a "respectable" family and isn't impoverished. This is a footballer taking in multiple seven figures in income annually, with the strong potential to do so for the better part of the next 2 decades. The odds of her being rich enough for Greenwood's income potential not to be life changing are extremely low - there just aren't many families with access to generational sums of wealth large enough to brush off seven figure annual sums as inconsequential. Nobody is suggesting she has no agency - quite the contrary, this would be her and her family exercising said agency by making a calculated business decision to stick with Greenwood. It is far from unusual to see people put up with more from celebrities, especially when generational wealth is in the picture (and they need the celebrity to get it). You talk about Greenwood's "rights" being "sacrificed" - that's not happening here. He won't play for England again and won't be signed by certain English clubs, that's true. But he doesn't have a right to any of that. No player is born with a "right" to play for a given club or to represent England or any other country. Those are privileges, not rights. His rights are intact. The FA doesn't owe him anything - he's not under contract and their decision not to call him doesn't infringe on any right to which he is legally entitled. And why are we assuming the FA has not already investigated? I think your argument presumes that any such inquiry by the FA would be publicized - that's not a given. It's distinctly possible that the FA has access not only to whatever was made available to United, but additional information obtained via private investigation commissioned after the incident. Such a process, should it exist (and it very likely does, they're standard procedure for major organizations like this with PR staff/firms on payroll) wouldn't necessarily ever be made public, especially in the also very likely event it was initiated independent of any consent of the player and his family (which would make such disclosure illegal). In either case, the FA almost certainly knows MUCH more than we do about what happened. I won't even get into some of the takes on the incident itself. Others have already noted that it makes no sense for this player to continue to accept the narrative on him as a rapist and woman-beater when evidence exists that could clearly exonerate him. Such evidence, if it existed, would open a lot of doors for him. That he's not forthcoming with such evidence says it probably doesn't exist. Social media can be a cesspool, that's true, but the video and audio are kind of what they are. Anyway, to each their own I guess. At this rate he plausibly won't be playing for anyone, and I'm ok with that.
He's going to end up playing for Jamaica. He's not getting a lifeline with England. Seems pretty obvious to me?
The issue of Antonee Robinson being an American has hit X (Twitter). Quite a lot of people have been saying he isn’t American. Which has upset a few of the big US team fan accounts. It’s interesting that nobody actually points out how he is eligible. I think that is because even if it is somehow legal it just feels pretty contentious to say the least. For anyone that says Antonee Robinson ain’t American. 👍 https://t.co/17UxyNoEMV pic.twitter.com/cgUraZ7rbw— USMNT Otaku 🇺🇸 (@USMNTOtaku) December 15, 2024
Ireland looking at options - Hallgrimsson said: “Normally in December and January I would look at the next layer of players and that is what we are doing now, both the players now we haven’t called up and the players that might be able to play, and just evaluate. We have talked to some.” Asked if he wanted a player to approach him or if he was willing to try to sell the idea of Ireland, he said: “It’s individual. "It depends on the quality of the player, etc. If it’s a high-profile player that can play for us, maybe we have the first approach. "Sometimes it’s the agent, sometimes it’s the player himself, sometimes it’s the mother. “And it’s down to the level of the player. Is it an Under-16 player? Is it an Under-18 player?” The idea of having to convince any player to represent a national side would trigger some fans but Hallgrimsson says supporters have to move with the times. He added: “I think it’s changing, how people see national teams. You can see with people migrating between countries, it’s just fluid. “Everybody likes to play on the international stage. If they cannot play for this one, they might go for the next one. Hallgrimsson suggested he was hopeful that at least one player who might fall into that category could be on board for the Nations League play-off against Bulgaria in three months’ time. He said: “We’ll have to wait and see that. It’s not in my hands.” https://www.thesun.ie/sport/14365007/ireland-heimir-hallgrimsson-liam-delap-caoimhin-kelleher/
I mean just from that first tweet, it’s a load of rubbish. I mean he says ‘ I love playing for my Country ‘, yeah sure Antonee, I’m sure you always considered yourself American from your junior and high school days watching and cheering on the US in Liverpool.
Wonder if it's Cirkin they're after here. Feels the most likely. Callum O'Hare too, maybe. Edit: CJ Egan Riley as well actually, who's been doing very well for Burnley.
They probably most likely want CM’s and wide options. Maybe Jacob Murphy and Dewsbury-Hall might switch? Hard to know because you would assume these options mentioned by both of us would have already been enquired about by Ireland in the past.
Yeah, it's a weird case with those two. It's rare that a player would choose a career without international football over representing a side like Ireland, but I've seen Irish fans say in the past that they've said they're not interested. They'd both be pretty big gets if the Irish can twist their arms, though.
Steven sidwell turned down an Ireland approach because he said he only felt English. Or was it dave kitson. Mark noble did the same
I mean they could be the most likely to be the player(s) in question given their willingness to accept call ups in the past. Cirkin would be a weird one because his links to Ireland are tenuous and he has a chance of playing for England. Maybe Jacob Murphy would be the one. KDH should still fancy his chances at an England call up if he gets a decent move.
Cirkin would be a shame, but it wouldn't be the first time a prospective England player has taken the first offer at hand, and Ireland are in dire need of a left-back. I've just had a deeper look and it appears as though Jacob Murphy isn't actually eligible for them.
Oh yeah We’ve done this before too. It’s just he’s always listed as a dual on Transfermarkt. There aren’t many eligible options for them to take that would be guaranteed to improve them.
Yeah, it's a very slim pool. I could honestly see them going for Louie Barry. It's the sort of thing Wales would do in their position. Their rebuild is a long-term one anyway, so it's probably worth a shot.
It isn’t going to be Delap. He has 35 youth caps for England and is in every squad he’s available for. He’s never shown the slightest interest in Ireland and cap-tied himself not long ago. He’s also not that far off England’s senior squad. Egan-Riley and Barry have both played for Ireland and have not been involved with England for a while. Cirkin hasn’t played for England for years either. If it is Cirkin, I hope it’s not because we’ve been overlooking him.
I think Louie Barry would be a good get for them. Ireland don’t really have any players with a bit of magic about them and Barry does have that. There’s a chance he could make it in the Premier League as well.