English players Dual Nationality thread #2

Discussion in 'England' started by roverman, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    The top division of French football league is financially not particularly healthy. That eventually couid affect their talent production.
     
  2. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    It could do, but many Ligue 1 academies already work on shoestring budgets. Ultimately it would probably mean they'd double down on their academies as a means to stay afloat, and while their league might tumble in quality a bit there's not going to be a shortage of interest in young French players from other European leagues so their best prospects would still have early access to top-quality football.

    The French have the advantage of having top-class infrastructure funded by the state at grassroots level all across the country, and their kids have excellent access to UEFA-qualified coaches at that level too. The academies definitely matter, but I'm not sure France are as reliant on academy finances to produce good players as we are.
     
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  3. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
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    Every other country tries to maximise their gains really regardless of their talent production. I think Brazil is the only side that doesn't really seem to feature players produced by other countries although i'm not sure how much that is by design.

    England have been certainly trying in recent years with the likes of the Setfords, Dembele, Joseph, McFarlane, and Buck, though i'm not sure its an avenue we'll get much success out of based on who we've enticed over so far.
     
  4. BarryfromEastenders

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  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I wonder if everytime he misses a chance, the music in the dressing room is ‘ I missed again ‘ :ninja:
     
  6. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    How about "In The Air Tonight" when they're playing the long-ball game under the floodlights? Or "Against All Odds" following a Cup upset? Or, if Matthew bombs, you could even have Phil himself singing "No Son Of Mine" :)
     
  7. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    When he claims an own goal 'invisible touch'
     
  8. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Son of Chris Samba, I think? Which is marginally less interesting than Phil Collins, but still.
     
  9. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Chris samba Blackburn legend
     
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  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I hope Greenwood switches to Jamaica soon to end the demands he gets recalled for England,
     
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  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Has there ever been a public apology from him?
     
  12. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Who is saying he should play for England?
     
  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    People on social media after he has scored twice today.
     
  14. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    He can't really apologise properly without legally implicating himself, not that I imagine he wants or considers he did anything wrong anyway.
     
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  15. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    If you look a little deeper into his stats yesterday I'd still be very cautious about getting too excited about him. In 90 minutes had 2 shots, one a penalty and scored 2 goals. 30 passes, 1 tackle, 0 dribbles. He still looks to be the very low input player who's value hinges on being effective in extremely limited moments. Exactly the kind of player that drives fans nuts when they go on inevitable dry spells. No suggestion that he's improved his appalling work rate from those stats either.
     
  16. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
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  17. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Rudoni is one of those who five or six years ago could've made a run at the England team with a move to a Premier League club but there are just too many options in his role now. He's a really good player but he's not a unique enough profile to compete with our current midfield options.

    Would've actually been a good option for the US senior team imo though. Sounds from his comments like he knows his England chances are slim.
     
  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Not football but Cycling has seen a big nationality defection as an Olympic medalist Matt Richardson switches from Australia where he was raised to Great Britain/England as he was eligible as he was born in Kent. Cycling tends to have quite flexible switching rules but still it’s a surprising move as he applied before the last Olympics so was competing knowing he was switching. GB cycling are delighted and the Aussie are fuming.
     
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  19. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    And its not like hes moving from a country thats crap at cycling. I wonder if he did it off this own back or we went out and poached him. I remember a german lad did the same thing a few years back.
     
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  20. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Probably some encouragement (GB cyclinf are still pretty ruthless) but also helped by his partner being the new star of British Cycling Emma Finucane.
     
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  21. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    So his gf is Emma Finucane, that explains alot. Probably easlier for him to move over here rather than Emma moving over there. Still its a bit of a coup for GB cycling.
     
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  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I think his parents are English as well, I remember watching the cycling and the commentators said something like that but raised in Australia from 9 years old I think so don’t think he moved there as a toddler fwiw.
     
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  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    His whole extended family are still in Kent it seems
     
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  24. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Dan Armer (United) & Harrison McMahon (Chelsea) with their first Scotland youth call-ups. Tyler Fletcher also continues to be with them.

     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Olise tipped for a senior French call up next week.,
     

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