England Under 21 Discussions Thread (2004+ born) #8

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jan 29, 2023.

  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Rosenior hasn’t done much for his development has he….
     
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  2. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Ashley Cole is reportedly set to become manager of Cesena in Serie B. Would potentially mean he gives up the 21s assistant job.
     
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  3. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Given I'm guessing he doesn't speak a lick of Italian that's got to be unusual in Italy.
     
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  4. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    He was in Italy for 2-years playing for Roma so he may well speak a decent amount
     
  5. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I thought we was only there a year, doesn't strike me as a linguist!
     
  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    And his wife is Italian - I’m sure he has licked up bits after over a decade together and two kids.
     
  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021



    Rosenior doesn’t seem to rate Acheampong

    * I meant picked,
     
  8. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Rosenior seems to be getting a fair bit of criticism from Chelsea fans for his handling of Acheampong. Mental he thinks Tosin and Badiashille better options for against Newcastle. I bet that’s what his stats book tells him….
     
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  9. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I think it's fairly clear that Rosenior is broadly told who to play. Chelsea made a huge pre tax loss this year and are probably going to sell Acheampong for pure profit.
     
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  10. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Well, let’s hope he gets sold in the Summer to someone who will play him. Whenever we have young Dual players that seems to spend more time on the bench than on the pitch it pushes them closer to a potential switch as someone like Ghana won’t care he’s a bench player where as he’s a lot less likely to make the England squad. I don’t think we’re there yet with Josh as long as he’s picked for the U21’s but the longer it goes on, the likelier it becomes imo.
     
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  11. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah exactly. We need them to be close to senior contention by the time they're no longer U21 eligible ideally.
     
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  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Luckily Acheampong still has another 3 years of U21 eligibility
     
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  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Rico Lewis is currently injured so I do not think he will be involved in these upcoming matches.
     
  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Lewis Miley won’t be be back for Newcastle until after the International break so will miss these matches,
     
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  15. Catenaccio88

    Catenaccio88 Member

    England
    Sep 23, 2023
    Glad Madrid didn't rush Bellingham back.
    If he gets injured again after this, it will probably rule him out of the WC
     
  16. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Another brace for Ballard, bringing up his 20th of the season for Leyton Orient. Also particularly impressive to say Leyton Orient are 19th in the table.

    I can't say I have seen him at all so hard to judge him as an overall player but surely a certainty for a step up in level in summer based on goal record alone. Adam Armstrong a decade ago was the last under 21 to hit 20 goals in league 1.

    Jimmy-Jay Morgan also keeps a quitely decent season that keeps his progression ticking along with his 10th goal, though I guess he's for the under 20 thread.
     
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  17. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    Hattrick now
     
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  18. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Hopefully he’s in the squad, would be a bit silly for him not be, given the injuries and that he’s obviously been rated in the past at lower age groups.
     
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  19. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Probably not a coincidence that Ballard has stepped up after being signed permanently by a club in League One. Rather than being in loan limbo.
     
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  20. StortfordSpurs1882

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 28, 2023
    Gray was brilliant tonight vs Atletico in CM, arguably the best player on the pitch.
     
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  21. StortfordSpurs1882

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 28, 2023
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  22. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I feel like he’s now using his body a lot better to shield the ball and he always had that surging burst in him.
     
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  23. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    What's the verdict of Archie Gray's development from the denizens of England Big Soccer, the bull case and the bear case?
     
  24. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I would say bull at this point but he is a player style that we create quite a lot in this country.
     
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  25. Slater582

    Slater582 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    #5800 Slater582, Mar 20, 2026
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2026
    There's a BBC article about Archie Gray published yesterday. Alludes at the end to his international future.

    Probably too late for Tuchel taking him to the World Cup but I expect him to be included for 2028. So hopefully Gray will continue to turn Scotland down if they offer a squad place in North America this year.


    Palace tried to sign Acheampong in the summer apparently. And that was before Guehi left. Would still be a good move for him imo.



    Was hoping he'd be available for more critical U19 qualifiers. The likes of Ballard, Max Dean, Lankshear would hopefully do a job for U21. Real unfortunate Makama got injured as he was looking really strong for Norwich.:mad:


    You'd assume MLS would want the game time as well? Seems a lad with a good attitude.
     
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