England Under 21 Discussions Thread (2004+ born) #8

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jan 29, 2023.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Porto intends to secure the signing of Tyler Dibling for over €25m.

    (Source: @Record_Portugal)
     
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  2. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Was looking at the realistic options for the start of the next campaign. Pretty healthy starting base -

    James Beadle, Tommy Simkin, Joe Whitworth.

    Ryan Andrews, Josh Acheampong, Nico O’Reilly, Oliver Scarles, Jahmai Simpson-Pusey, Ashley Phillips, Ayden Heaven, Ben Nelson, Brooke Norton-Cuffy.

    Lewis Miley, Jobe Bellingham, Chris Rigg, Jack Hinshelwood, Ethan Nwaneri, James McConnell, Toby Collyer

    Tyrique George, Tyler Dibling, Jamie Gittens, Romain Esse.

    Dane Scarlett, Divin Mubama, Jayden Danns.
     
  3. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I think Rico Lewis should probably be brought back into the fold (given he's be unlikely to feature massively for the seniors), think he'd benefit with from a U21s campaign, think he was captain earlier in this one.
     
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  4. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Maybe but he’s a very unique option. Most of what he does at this level doesn’t really translate to senior level. So, bringing him back might be somewhat fruitless? Not that I would be against it.
     
  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Must be a chance Kobbie Mainoo is at least considered by Carsley for a drop back down. If it happens who knows.

    Rico Lewis will likely be involved in September. Carsley wanted him for this Euros.

    Lewis Hall will probably be in the seniors in September but if for whatever reason he is not he could be put in this level. Same in theory with Adam Wharton.
     
  6. Regis Prograis

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Yeah potentially, but would be a bit of waste to leave him in limbo, as I don't think he'll be in many senior squads.
     
  7. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Probably only if James, Trent and at least one of White/Walker/Livramento are all unavailable due to injury.
     
  8. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    You could argue that but if we are bringing players back to U21 level we need to be figuring out what role they would be in theory playing eventually for the seniors.
     
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  9. Regis Prograis

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    For me I'd just pick the best group of players (unless they are likely to feature heavily for the Seniors). By the time the next U21 campaign comes to a close in 2026, we don't know who the senior coach will be or what type of role they'll demand from there full backs or any position.
     
  10. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  11. andals

    andals Member

    Jun 13, 2015
    yup. agreed. there's a big difference in taking a Rico Lewis to a major U21s tournament to have him experience all that comes with that versus putting him on a plane to Liechtenstein to play in a qualifier. needs to be figured out.

    case in point - this is Livramento's first ever tournament with England, which is why it i is far more valuable for him to be doing what he does with the 21s than sat on a bench in Barcelona watching the seniors play Andorra.
     
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  12. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Liverpool have joined Manchester United, Chelsea and Newcastle in the race for Southampton and England Under-21s winger Tyler Dibling, 19. (CaughtOffside)

    Bayer Leverkusen are weighing up a bid for Manchester City youngster James McAtee - who has previously been linked with Manchester United. (Daily Mirror)
     
  13. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021

     
  14. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Carney Chukwuemeka, Jobe Bellingham and Jamie Gittens all on the bench for Dortmund in the Club World Cup.
     
  15. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Jobe was good when he came on in the 2nd half, didn’t look out of place in the slightest.
     
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  16. ADM99

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    Apr 28, 2019
    Cresswell in advanced talks to join Como apparently.
     
  17. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Apparently he scores very highly on a lot of data metrics for CBs across Europe. Makes sense that he's caught the eye of a data-driven club like Como.
     
  18. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
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    Nov 5, 2021
     
  19. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Chelsea have held further talks with West Ham about Ghana midfielder Mohammed Kudus, 24, but are prioritising a move for Borussia Dortmund's 20-year-old English winger Jamie Gittens. (Guardian), external
     
  20. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
  21. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Borussia Dortmund's English winger Jamie Gittens, 20, is intent on joining Chelsea this summer and remains their main target in that position. (Standard)
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Livramento doing the press conference with Carsley today which confirms he will return to the starting line up,
     
  23. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Brighton are set to enter the race for Harvey Elliott - and have identified the Liverpool star as their key summer target. (The Sun)
     
  24. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Jobe starting for Dortmund this afternoon. Chukwuemeka and Gittens on the bench.
     
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  25. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Jobe scores at Club World Cup.
     
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