England Under 21 Discussions Thread (2002+ born) #8

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jan 29, 2023.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021

    Sounds like Alex Scott might be able to be involved.
     
  2. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah, they're probably right about Carney. I'm extremely high on him and I think his ceiling is higher than Jobe's but it's impossible not to be a bit concerned by his injury record. It's one of several reasons why Chelsea's £40m valuation of him is so pie-in-the-sky.

    If they don't budge on that valuation you could see a scenario where Dortmund can get him on loan again, but I could see a Premier League club signing him permanently at a compromised price. There are probably a few PL clubs that'd be willing to pay £25-30m for him.
     
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  3. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    A training squad is being announced later in week. Then the final squad will get confirmed closer to the start of the tournament.
     
  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It wasn’t very different in 2023. Probably just have more than 23 players.
     
  5. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Hopefully it is better than last time. Picked just 24 options for the training squad and players got injured. Meaning they needed replacing later on.

    Circumstances are much different now too. Plenty more options deserving of a squad place.
     
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  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Elliott has scored.
     
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  7. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Harvey Elliott on his future: “It's about what's best for my career”.

    “It's about reflecting and seeing what I can do. I'm here at the moment and I'm focusing on the final game”.(Fabrizio Romano)

    Sounds like he might actually leave Liverpool.
     
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  9. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018


    Just found this on youtube from 2007. Interesting that 3 of the England players are still playing.
     
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  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Paul Wanner will play for Germany at the U21 Euros this summer and will not travel with Bayern to the Club World Cup. The decision has been made in consultation between Bayern, the DFB and the player's camp [@kerry_hau]
     
  12. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    He was on loan all season, and hasn't played for Bayern, its not a particular similar scenario to the England players, if that's why you've posted this?
     
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  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It was mentioned that Bayern were thinking of taking him as extra backup.
     
  14. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Newcastle United are among the clubs set to hold talks with Ipswich Town’s 22-year-old English striker Liam Delap this week. (Talksport), external

    Manchester United lead the race to sign Delap but a defeat in the Europa League final and consequential inability to offer him European football next season would hand Chelsea the advantage. (ESPN)


    The clear plan for Jonas Urbig is to travel with Bayern for the Club World Cup. The goalkeeper will therefore miss the U21 Euros. Vincent Kompany wants to have Urbig in the US as an alternative to Manuel Neuer [@SkySportDE]
     
  15. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Dane Scarlett took part in open training yesterday in Bilbao, he must have had his groin surgery a few weeks backs. So I suspect he'll be fit if Carsley chooses to pick him
     
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  16. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Germany have announced 26 players in their squad including 4 keepers. Is that a provisional one or are they taking extras?
     
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  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Some of those players look older than Jordan Henderson……
     
  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Chelsea accounts on social media think Delap will join them now Man United are not in Europe.
     
  19. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    According to DFB-Nachwuchs on Insta they'll cut 3 players for the final roster. Also, Nick Woltemade, the u21's starting striker, will be part of the German senior side for the Nations League Final Four and join up with the u21 side after that.
     
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  20. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Is it a good squad overall? I know some of the players but not that many. I suspect we will be missing quite a few players so could be a tough game for us this time around.
     
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  21. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Manchester City midfielder James McAtee is a target for Bayer Leverkusen while the 22-year-old Englishman is also being monitored by a number of Premier League clubs. (Sky Germany), external
     
  22. sharmichael

    sharmichael Member

    England
    Jun 13, 2023
    I don't really understand why United want Delap. He's obviously got potential but they signed young, raw strikers in each of the last two summers and they've both struggled badly. Everyone knows they need an established #9.

    With that in mind it seems like it would be a bad career move on Delap's part. I think Everton or West Ham would be a good landing spot for him at this stage, and given that he has a low release clause it is viable that he could join a midtable team rather than a top one.
     
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  23. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    The problem is that an established 9, who is at the level they would want/need won’t go anywhere near them. They are now at the stage as a club where they are forced to take punts on players and shop in different markets because of their new standing in the football landscape.

    Unfortunately I am extremely pessimistic on Delap’s progression now. All of the clubs he is linked to would be poor moves for differing reasons. United and Chelsea are just chaotic, unpredictable messes, Newcastle is a much better and more stable environment but they have arguably the best striker in the league already so hard to see how much game time he would get.

    I suppose with them being in Europe next season and Isak having injury issues, this may not quite be as problematic as it appears on the surface however.
     
  24. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    The perfect next step for Delap would be somewhere like Brentford, Brighton or Fulham
     
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  25. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    France have picked a 29 player preliminary squad -

    [​IMG]
     

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