England Under 21 Discussions Thread (2002+ born) #8

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jan 29, 2023.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  2. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Will he play in the EFL forever?
     
  3. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    He'll probably have a career in the Premier League but I doubt many clubs see him as an elite prospect because of his physical profile. He's pretty slow while also being fairly averagely sized for a CB.

    He's great on the ball and definitely a decent defender so maybe he's being undervalued slightly, but generally PL clubs tend to only target the best of the best when they go for young and inexperienced English players. If you're going into the EFL for a young English CB you'd pick Charlie Hughes imo.
     
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  4. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    Aston Villa's English goalkeeper James Wright, 19, is in talks to join Real Union, who play in Spain's third tier, on loan this season. (Athletic - subscription required)

    Chelsea's English defender Alfie Gilchrist, 20, is set to undergo a medical ahead of joining Sheffield United on a season-long loan. (Sky Sports), external
     
  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Chelsea have been contacted by Rangers over a potential loan for 19-year-old academy midfielder Leo Castledine. Aberdeen are also interested in the Englishman. (FootballScotland)
     
  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  7. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Ben Futcher will take charge of the Under21’’s in Carsleys absence.
     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I suspect he will take over full time when Carsley is promoted full time or leaves.
     
  9. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Nothing against Futcher but the criteria for getting this role has to be better than solely being the current coach of the level below. This is how we ended up with Aidy Boothroyd.

    Needs to be evidence that the coach can implement a specific style.
     
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  10. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Surprised a PL team hasn’t bid for him.

     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Not sure that’s a good team for him with whoelse has gone there this summer.
     
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  12. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Who Greenwood? They don’t really play in the same position
     
  13. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah it is a surprise and I guess you could through Hackney in that bracket as well.
     
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  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  15. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Also Jack Clarke.
     
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  16. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah it’s taking a chance in a situation that we have to beat Ukraine at home to win the group so it’s a big call from the FA. I presume one of the issues is question marks over Carsleys future, does he remain the manager of the seniors or drop back down? I suppose it’s hard for the FA to get someone in on short notice to cover what might only be a few games or potentially longer depending on what happens with Carsley. Who do you think we could have got in Baz or could have been approached?
     
  17. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    There's still a lot of Championship talent just waiting to improve a team in the PL. Rowe looks likely to go which is good, but Clarke, Sheaf and Hackney are three of the most PL ready of all the English players in that league, including the ones who have signed with PL clubs this summer.

    The Clarke one is tough because Sunderland are asking for £25m and they're wealthy enough to hold out for that amount. I still think (hope) there's an outside chance Sheaf gets a move, but the interest in Hackney just doesn't seem to be there while £25m for Clarke just obviously isn't deemed a good deal by most PL clubs.
     
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  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  19. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    The 3 group runners up with the most points also qualify directly so we'd almost certainly qualify regardless of the Ukraine game, barring some kind of disaster like losing the remainign 3 games.
     
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  20. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I wasn’t even thinking of the current campaign. More long term. Futcher has barely taken charge of many England youth games. Hard to know what he will even be like.

    I haven’t got an individual preference. Just want the selection process to be pretty rigorous for this role. Doesn’t look like it will be though.
     
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  21. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021

     
  22. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain

    He's hit and miss is Nixon but people who subscribe to him are saying it's Chukwuemeka. He fits into Glasner's system as an attacker and Chelsea released a brief a few weeks ago insinuating they'd sell him for £40m. Would be a great move for Carney tbh.
     
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  23. StortfordSpurs1882

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 28, 2023
    Palace maybe keeping him as an option in case somebody goes for Eze's release clause
     
  24. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Yeah it's hard to say. I think they could use him either way personally. There's still a big hole in their attack after Olise leaving.
     
  25. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    This is an interesting one. He's got loads of ability and I hope that we get him back in the group if he starts to perform. The big challenge will be the IC though as they'll offer senior call-ups I think. He was at one point a really enthusiastic England player.

    I fear that McAtee will have a season in the shadows. He is talented but I'm not sure he has what it takes to get much game time for City this season.
     
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