England Under 21 Discussions Thread (2002+ born) #8

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jan 29, 2023.

  1. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    I don't buy this. Why should he? Barcelona clearly want a household name there (Nico Williams), Philogene will have more opportunities in the Prem.
     
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  2. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    In most cases opportunity at a club is not predetermined. Unless for whatever reason a manager just doesn't fancy you it's in your own hands.

    If he was 17/18 I'd understand it but he turns 23 this season.
     
  3. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    James McAtee is scheduled to travel with Manchester City on their pre-season tour of the United States amid interest from Chelsea and a host of other Premier League rivals. (Daily Mail)
     
  4. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Yes, precisely because he's 22-23 years old, he no longer has the time to sit on the bench for a season behind Yamal and Raphinha. He should do what is the best for him and his career. If he will be a hit in the Prem, than he will have plenty of time to go to Barcelona or any so called big club.
     
  5. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Why would he automatically sit on the bench behind those players? Those two are both natural right wingers for a start. Barcelona are financially strangled and, like most European clubs, struggle to afford the mega money transfers nowadays. English players in their prime cost an arm and a leg. This opportunity may never come around again.
     
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  6. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    They're both right wingers. Raphinha has only played on the left because they have no one else. For me turning down this opportunity - which will likely never come again - just for more minutes at a mid table (at best) Premier League team would be absolutely barmy.
     
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  7. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Philogene played on the right for Hull, that's why I wrote right wingers, but let's have a look on the left wingers Barca seemingly looking for: Nico Williams, Kvaratselia, Luis Diaz. He would be certainly not the only left winger they're after.
    I would absolutely understand him choosing McKenna and Ipswich over a leap in the dark for his career.
     
  8. StortfordSpurs1882

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 28, 2023
     
  9. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Fair play, that's hilarious.
     
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  10. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    OK, now I understand. I was suspicious from the start about what Barcelona might want from Philogene. He's a super skilful player, but he's not on the same level as the wingers playing there.
     
  11. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Reminds me of that striker from West Brom who drove up the motorway and didnt get signed
     
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  12. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    As if Barcelona don’t know who Philogene is. Seem like there is more to this issue.
     
  13. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
     
  14. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Peter odimwingie
     
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  15. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    his dad had a really small penis, but on the other hand….
     
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  16. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Feb 8, 2020
    I'd be a amazed if there was no interest from the Barca side (maybe it was a weak Loan offer), his agent has probably acted a bit of prat, but far to much smoke here.
     
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  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  18. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Feb 8, 2020
    Interesting move for Cresswell, looked to have fallen through but back on apparently
     
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  19. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Almost all the English youngsters left Leeds: Gray, Bate, Cresswell, Gyabi (I know it's a loan but clearly down the pecking order) and Shackleton (not that young anymore). Gelhardt and Greenwood next. Almost forgot about Perkins. Sad end of a once hopeful project.
     
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  20. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    The project was probably always to make money off them. It worked?
     
  21. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Only in the case of Gray, but he was the one they did not want to lose. So I wouldn't say it did.
     
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  22. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Feb 8, 2020
    I had quite high hopes of Perkins. Just seen he's signed on loan at his local club Leyton Orient hopefully he has a good season.
     
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  23. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Sam Greenwood to Preston on loan.
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Manchester United, Crystal Palace and Tottenham Hotspur are among the clubs interested in Hull City's English midfielder Jaden Philogene, 22. (TeamTalk)
     

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