England Under 15 Discussion Thread #1 (2011 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by zanyk, Mar 17, 2015.

  1. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Harry Darbyshire-Came (Norwich)
     
  2. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Could be wrong but think he's been called up to a GK camp and not this squad. Believe he's an U16.
     
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  3. ADM99

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    Apr 28, 2019
    William Ferdinand Cvek (Barcelona)

    Completely new name, didn't attend any of the camps. Originally from Australia but also has Croatian roots. Not sure how he qualifies for us.

    Has also played for PSV & Real Madrid in the past.
     
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  4. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah that’s a very curious situation, I just googled him as you most probably have and like you say seems to have Croatian roots from both his mum and dad so really interesting to see how he qualifies for us as can’t find any links with England but presumably there must be if he’s in our squad.
     
  5. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The obvious guess is one English grandparent. Both English born and Croatian born people have been migrating to Australia in huge numbers consistently since the early 1900s, could easily have grandparents who are one of each nationality and met in Australia.
     
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  6. ADM99

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    Apr 28, 2019
    Doing a bit more googling, looks like he played for Croatia's U14s last season & even captained them. Apparently Spain have been sniffing around too, so very much looks like we're trying to get our hat in the ring early.
     
  7. TeeAye

    TeeAye Member

    Oct 2, 2023


    Assuming no one was impersonating an U8 kid, he’s a quarter Filipino too
     
  8. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC


    Doesn’t specify how but just that he has English family somewhere down the line ( not really ground breaking as he obviously must have )
     
  9. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    If he qualifies for England, Spain, Croatia, Philippines and Australia then it very much suggests that the first four nations are where his grandparents are from and that he qualifies for Australia through being born there.
     
  10. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    If Australia were to ever start producing top footballers en masse, there'd probably monumental dual national recruitment opportunities on our end.
     
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  11. ADM99

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    Apr 28, 2019
    Luiz Munoz in Arsenal's UYL squad again. As is Jaden Maghoma for the first time.
     
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  12. ADM99

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    Apr 28, 2019
    Camden Schaper (Unattached, for now)
     
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  13. AJ123

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    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I think @horrisengleton was worried that he wouldn't be able to realistically play for England if the new citizenship rules are passed. It's entirely plausible as a white South African that he could qualify through a parent or grandparent.
     
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  14. horrisengleton

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    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Very true, although Schaper sounds more Dutch to me than anything. Still a possibility though.
     
  15. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    It's predominately a German name but Dutch also. Many white South Africans have mixed English, Dutch or German ancestry though, Elon Musk (English & German) being a notable example.
     
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  16. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Goalkeepers: Arlo Tye (Derby County), Mason Ellis (Manchester City), Zachary Trinder (Wolverhampton Wanderers)

    Defenders: Francis Boggan (Everton), Zac Wattley (Ipswich Town), Rubens Nebatumbu (Leicester City), Piers Pinnock (SL Benfica), Concilio Tonebi (West Ham United), Oliver Crofts (Chelsea), Abdul-Muiz Odusanya-Edunfunke (West Bromwich Albion), Joseph Akinsanya (Manchester United)

    Midfielders: Rico Sealey (Chelsea), William Apter (Everton), William Ferdinand Cvek (FC Barcelona), Luca Eden (Liverpool), Brian Nyonyi (Manchester United), Charlie Robinson (Newcastle United), Isaac Allen (West Ham United), Eden Mahoney-Smith (Chelsea), Luis Munoz (Arsenal)

    Forwards: Jaden Maghoma (Arsenal), Eliah Semakula (Chelsea), Kobi Akerele (Liverpool), Emmanuel Famokun (West Ham United)
     
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  17. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Boggan and English/Italian dual according to transfermarkt
     
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  18. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Wasn’t it this age group that has a kid from Spurs who is putting up crazy numbers this season for goals and assists?
     
  19. ADM99

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    Apr 28, 2019
    Believe he has an Italian grandparent. Rubens Nebatumbu is also eligible for them, not sure but he might've been born there.
     
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  20. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    According to a relative he´s not there as you need a British passport to play in this UEFA development tournament.
     
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  21. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    You'd assume that means his route to a passport is via naturalisation then, which may or may not mean he'll never actually be eligible to represent England in a competitive youth game.

    Also looking through said relative's (seemingly his father) X account, they say they've been very vocal to the South African FA about Camden representing them, for whatever that's worth.
     
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  22. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    Surprised not to see Jacie Dore there. Who are the supposed wingers in this selection?
     
  23. ATRS

    ATRS Member

    Arsenal
    Apr 26, 2021
    Luis Munoz- attacking midfielder/right winger
    Eden Mahoney-Smith and Kobi Akerele are wingers too i think
     
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  24. ADM99

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    Apr 28, 2019
    Akerele is a 9 but he could probably play wide. Likewise Famokun. I imagine they see one of those two as a winger because they wouldn't bring 4 #9s.

    But I am a bit suprised Dore, or another out-and-out winger, isn't selected.
     
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  25. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Dunno if Concilio Tonebi is starting against Iceland today but looks like he has the #20 shirt.


    Pinnock may have come on their radar when he was at the Sheffield United academy.

    Goalkeeper Mason Ellis was allowed to attend; so maybe it was just an unusually lean year for them?


    Haughton-Sinclair. Lot of Spurs fans surprised he didn't get selected but that might just be club bias.


    Spain might be a potential residency qualification?
     
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