England U-20 Discussions Thread (2004 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by Jenks, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    #2301 BarryfromEastenders, Oct 23, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2021
    Sounds like Gelhardt impressed off the bench for Leeds today.

     
  2. PoliteSquats

    PoliteSquats Member

    Apr 13, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Can't say he's near to that quality yet but he really does resemble a young Wayne Rooney in terms of style of play.
     
  3. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    I think we can finally forget the likes of Brewster and Balogun starting for the U21s. Gelhardt is more than ready.
     
  4. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Portugal v England MU20s
    U20 International Match
    5pm, Thursday 11 November
    Estádio Municipal de Leiria

    Squad named: 11am, Friday 5 November
     
  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    1456577030758174720 is not a valid tweet id
     
  6. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Strange! The FA have deleted the tweet with the squad announcement
     
  7. JTay

    JTay Member

    England
    Apr 27, 2019
  8. JTay

    JTay Member

    England
    Apr 27, 2019
    Find it funny how Cameron Archer was included after Dean Smith said he was eligible for Wales (he isn't) and the papers were saying Jamaica wanted to call him up. Great job by his agent (I presume).
     
  9. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Leighton Clarkson isn't Blackburn standard never mind international standard. Hes been terrible for rovers
     
  10. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Rak-Sakyi was left out of the original post by the FA
     
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  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    The Squad

    Goalkeepers: Harvey Cartwright (Hull City), Louie Moulden (Wolverhampton Wanderers), James Trafford (Accrington Stanley, loan from Manchester City)

    Defenders: Ajibola Alese (West Ham United), Dennis Cirkin (Sunderland), Cody Drameh (Leeds United), Henry Lawrence (AFC Wimbledon, loan from Chelsea), Teden Mengi (Manchester United), Clinton Mola (VFB Stuttgart), Joshua Wilson-Esbrand (Manchester City)

    Midfielders: Lewis Bate (Leeds United), Leighton Clarkson (Blackburn Rovers, loan from Liverpool), James McAtee (Manchester City), Daniel Neil (Sunderland)

    Forwards: Cameron Archer (Aston Villa), Joseph Gelhardt (Leeds United), Sam Greenwood (Leeds United), Jaden Philogene-Bidace (Aston Villa), Jesurun Rak-Sakyi (Crystal Palace), Morgan Rogers (AFC Bournemouth, loan from Manchester City)
     
  12. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Has Bate been on the bench for Leeds before? He is today.
     
  13. ElCub25

    ElCub25 New Member

    Leeds United
    Aug 9, 2021
    No it is the first time he has.
     
  14. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Kaine Kesler-Hayden, Reece Welch & Jay Stansfield called up.

    Joe Gelhardt has withdrawn, possibly moved up the U21s although nothing official yet.
     
  15. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Gelhardt is presumably injured unfortunately, he missed the Leeds game too.
     
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  16. Lewisbower

    Lewisbower New Member

    Liverpool
    England
    Aug 29, 2021
    Weird one, not posted on the initial thumbnail picture, but Tyler Morton is in the squad. On the website now.
     
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  17. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Presumably he's the replacement for one of the players shifted up to U21
     
  18. Lewisbower

    Lewisbower New Member

    Liverpool
    England
    Aug 29, 2021
    Yeah you’d assume, but on the MU20’s squad page he doesn’t have the asterisk and information to signify that’s the case like Welch etc do.
     
  19. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Losing 2-0 to Portugal
     
  20. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Sounds like Tyler Morton had a great CL debut tonight.
     
  21. PoliteSquats

    PoliteSquats Member

    Apr 13, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC

    Looks like a decent option.
     
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  22. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    McAtee signs on with City. Hopefully this means we’ll see a lot more of him. He’s 19 and the best player in the u23 league so he needs some senior football.
     
  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #2323 Fireburn47, Feb 3, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2022
    Hopefully it means him and Cole Palmer can work together as they have apparently fallen out. When I saw the rumour he might have been leaving I did wonder if Man City had decided they couldn’t be in the same team but obviously that is not the case.
     
  24. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    #2324 MrSnrub, Feb 3, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2022
    I can't help but feel being the best player in the under 23 league is getting into being the tallest dwarf territory. If you're THAT rated, you probably won't be playing much under 23 football (unless you're especially young).

    Certainly looking over previous premier league 2 players of the season its not particularly a who's who of players going on to be top talent. Oliver McBurnie, Reiss Nelson, Aaron Connoly, Curtis Jones, Liam Delap being te previous winners.

    Also pretty notable if you look at the England team, pretty much all the outfielders had graduated to senior football at least at some level in their teens.
     
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  25. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Sure but if you're that good at that level then you need to start playing senior football. In the case of McAtee, he was in the last 18 months of his contract with City and it seemed there was a good chance he'd leave. Unfortunately that meant that City were unlikely to prioritise him for minutes under those conditions. Clubs cynically use that power dynamic to get young players to sign on in order to protect their investment. Given that and the level of competition in his position at City, his absence of minutes so far isn't something to get too concerned about yet, although it would've been better for him to go out on loan you feel.

    I'd add that Jones and Delap are still well in contention to have highly successful careers too.
     
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