England U-20 Discussions Thread (2004 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by Jenks, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Would even have liked to see some of the other Leeds youngsters in there like Jack Clarke and Shackleton to be honest. Not really sure what to make of this Squad but my initial reaction was quite disappointed. Was hoping for quite a few 2000 and a mix younger players with high ceilings to freshen things up. Not sure what more we can learn from players like Suliman, Hirst and Pearce at the moment.
     
  2. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Had just seen that, and that will very likely be from Jason Dozzell so will be totally accurate
     
  3. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I don’t like this squad half as much as the U21 selections.

    Wouldn’t we learn more having Garner or Panzo instead of Suliman? Greenwood over Hirst?

    It feels like loyalty to certain players is becoming counter productive.
     
  4. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Having mulled over it I think anyone who isn't in contention for the next U21 cycle shouldn't have been included in the squad. I've nothing against Max Lowe or Josh Sims but they're unlikely to ever make the senior England team so what's the benefit of including them in this squad when there are more highly rated players in younger age groups who will just be sitting at home this summer?

    One thing that's good about the U21 squad and is lacking in this one is - although you can debate picking other players - it doesn't have any question mark players who you suspect have only been picked out of loyalty, familiarity or because they're a good lad to have in the dressing room.
     
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  5. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Shackleton and Josh Dasilva have been called up.
     
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  6. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Has someone withdrawn?
     
  7. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Don’t know who they replaced but it’s names like these two I would have liked in there in the first place tbh.
     
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  8. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Shackelton replaced Suliman and Dasilva was just an addition.

    Ryan Schofield of Huddersfield has also replaced Nathan Trott.
     
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  9. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Replacing a CB with two midfielders? The squad is looking a bit unbalanced now.
     
  10. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    After the season he’s had, I think Suliman was lucky to be in this Squad in the first place if I’m brutally honest. Maybe a host of withdrawals meant he got the call up idk. He needs a good loan or permanent move somewhere next season to get good game time imo.
     
  11. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I’m just glad that Gallagher, Nketiah or Willock didn’t withdraw.
     
  12. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    There are a few players that I’m unfamiliar with. Could someone take a punt at our strongest line up?
     
  13. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Schofield

    James
    Chalobah
    Guehi
    Lowe

    Dasilva
    Willock
    Tavernier

    Nketiah
    Loader
    McNeil

    Possibly, but I doubt that'll be a side we get anywhere close to seeing.

    Presumably Willock + Nketiah aren't even in the running for Saturday.
     
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  14. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
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  15. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Against the run of play but we're 1-0 up. Chalobah from McNeil's corner.

    Japan have been very lively so far and have had their chances. Good time to score, hopefully we settle down now.
     
  16. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Seems typical of our Toulon displays. Disjointed and struggling but eeking things out.
     
  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    New contract incoming for Simpson then.
     
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  18. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Japan are just moving the ball so much quicker and better than us.
     
  19. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    #2019 TopBanana10, Jun 1, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2019
    Why do we insist on persevering with mediocre players?

    Dylan Levitt can make the Welsh senior squad but Greenwood can’t even make the Toulon squad?!

    We’re still under appreciating technical talents and over emphasising loyalty and athleticism.
     
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  20. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Ends 2-1. Japan outclassed us for a large part of the game. They were so much quicker and sharper on the ball.

    Dwight McNeil comfortably our best player.
     
  21. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Unsurprisingly, McNeil was a class above. Would like to see Shackleton start next time. Willock, Gallagher and Nketiah too.
     
  22. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Weird team really. Many of the best players left on the bench and more left at home.

    Japan were playing an u22 side but still we should have beaten them.

    Disheartening to see us playing like crap again.
     
  23. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    The problem with persistence with Simpson after that U19 spell is that you know he isn’t going to offer much different.

    Last season Nketiah was on a record breaking scoring run for the U19’s and he was then shunted left for Brereton/Hirst. I still find it bizarre that Nketiah has barely played the central forward role since the start of that U19 campaign. It has not helped Hirst to be continuously starting whilst struggling or being isolated.
     
  24. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Japan are currently 5-1 up against Chile and it's not even half-time yet. We were extremely poor against them but Japan look to be a very good side.

    Unless this young Portugal side do us a favour in the final game, we may well have to hope for a best runner-up finish.
     
  25. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008

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