England U-20 Discussions Thread (2006 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by Jenks, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    do you think Poland, Czech, Romania and Switzerland are significantly better than Japan?
     
  2. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    The format felt like competitive games and we were playing two games in the meet ups instead of one. So the answer is yes. Miles better than just games against random teams.
     
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  3. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    Wheatley scored
     
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  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Assist for Ayden Heaven this evening.
     
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  5. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Men's under-20s

    England v Japan
    MU20 International
    7.30pm, Friday 14 November
    Doncaster Rovers FC
    Get tickets

    Squad named: 1pm, Friday 7 November
     
  6. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    First call-up for Charlie Gray.
     
  7. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    The Squad

    Goalkeepers: Ted Curd (Chelsea), Elyh Harrison (Shrewsbury Town, on loan from Manchester United), Finlay Herrick (West Ham United)

    Defenders: Olabade Aluko (Leicester City), Benjamin Arthur (Brentford), Somto Boniface (Ipswich Town), Jayden Meghoma (Rangers, on loan from Brentford), Harrison Murray-Campbell (Chelsea), Amara Nallo (Liverpool), Triston Rowe (Annecy, on loan from Aston Villa)

    Midfielders: Charlie Gray (Manchester City), Shea Lacey (Manchester United), Kieran Morgan (QPR), Law McCabe (Plymouth Argyle, on loan from Middlesbrough), Lewis Orford (Stevanage, on loan from West Ham United)

    Forwards: Samuel Amo-Ameyaw (Strasbourg), Ato Ampah (Chelsea), Micah Mbick (Colchester United, on loan from Charlton Athletic), Joel Ndala (Hull City, on loan from Manchester City), Ethan Wheatley (Northampton Town, on loan from Manchester United)
     
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  8. ColUFan

    ColUFan Member

    Colchester United
    England
    Apr 22, 2022
    Good to see Mbick get a call up, he's been outstanding for us this season.
     
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  9. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Interesting Benjamin Arthur in there as is a 2005 born


    Vs last squad

    In
    Ted Curd - GK
    Amara Nallo - DEF
    Benjamin Arthur (2005) - DEF
    Triston Rowe - DEF
    Charlie Gray - MID - 1st Call up
    Kieran Morgan - MID
    Joel Ndala - ATT
    Micah Mbick - 1st call up

    Out
    Tommy Setford - GK - To U21s
    Ayden Heaven - DEF
    Charlie Tasker - DEF - Withdrew from last squad injured
    Eyimofe Jemide - DEF
    Lakyle Samuel - DEF
    Harrison McMahon - MID
    Jamaldeen Jimoh - MID
    Kiano Dyer - MID
    Jimmy Jay Morgan - ATT
    Tom Watson - ATT [Who moved up to 21s last time out]

    Plus Louis Page and Alejandro Gomes Rodrigues played in the game last time but were never named in squad so presumably just filled in
     
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  10. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Slightly surprised Russell-Denny hasn't been called up to this age group in this cycle, thought he was one of the better players for the U19s in the last Euros.
     
  11. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I mentioned him in the dual national thread -

    Interesting that they are making special dispensation for certain dual options.Good move.
     
  12. Pep disciple

    Pep disciple Member

    Manchester City
    England
    Oct 25, 2022
    Been calling for Charlie Gray for a while, very good footballer who links play brilliantly

    glad to see him get the opportunity, well deserved
     
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  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Ted Curd (Chelsea) has been replaced by George Pickford (Everton)
    Law McCabe (Plymouth Argyle, on loan from Middlesbrough) has been replaced by Josh Ajala (West Ham United)
    Charlie Gray (Manchester City) has been replaced by Harrison McMahon (Chelsea)
     
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  14. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  15. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Lee Carsley on Shea Lacey -

    Lacey, who is continuing to impress Ruben Amorim and Manchester United first team staff in training, only made his debut for England Under-20s in the last international break but he is already knocking on the door.

    'He's been in the pathway a good amount of time now and he's a player that we rate highly,' Carsley added.

    'It worked out well that we needed that position for the training we were doing and Shea was more than happy to come over and train with the Under-21s.

    'You can see he's a good talent. I know he's struggled with injuries in the past, which has probably held back his development, but I think it's so important we don't rush these young players, we let them develop in their own time.

    'I think he trained two sessions with us and I enjoyed having him.'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-15288625/Arsenal-wonderkid-Max-Dowman-15-contention-promoted-FIVE-age-groups-England-21s-Lee-Carsley-considers-Man-United-talent-Shea-Lacey.html
     
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  16. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Jack Thompson of Derby [currently on loan at Braintree], called up to replace Elyh Harrison
     
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  17. Pep disciple

    Pep disciple Member

    Manchester City
    England
    Oct 25, 2022
    Like the comments about patience, too many assume kids are fully developed at 19/20 which is very short sited. Lacey at 22 could be some player
     
  18. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    1-1 draw with Japan, Lacey with the goal.
     
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  19. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Seemed to concede a late one.
     
  20. andals

    andals Member

    Jun 13, 2015
    such a strange age group for us. always has been. it is more of a bridge to playing league football than it is for playing at the highest level, and certainly for getting into the senior setup. Konsa won the U20 world cup in 2017. outside of him, only Gordon was capped at U20 level.
     
  21. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    As far as I can see 17 of the current squad got under 20 caps? Most the ones who didn't are people who didn't get underage caps (Rice, Burn, Bowen). Not too many bypassed entirely, though not many there for long either.

    I think its good to keep players around the set up, particularly seeing how many do advance to the seniors. Especially given how important dual-national battles are. It was a lot easier keeping someone like Eze in the system who had very keen interest by him being able to play in the under 20s for for example, when he otherwise wasn't really in the picture for call ups.
     
  22. andals

    andals Member

    Jun 13, 2015
    you're right. bad data on my end. re-pulled: Konsa, Quansah, Stones, James, Rashford, Kane, Henderson (Dean), Pickford, Trafford, Eze, Rogers, Wharton, Scott, O'Reilly, Gordon.

    my bias sits with the non-competitive age groups of U18s, U20s and what is the most optimal way of deploying our talent at these sensitive development points in time. the dual national element is a good argument, fully taken on board. the competitiveness (per the above discussion) has taken a knock back. more so asking the question of: "are we doing it right?".
     
  23. TeeAye

    TeeAye Member

    Oct 2, 2023
     
  24. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Really like bits that I've seen from Wheatley this season. Think there's a real player in there. Growing into his frame more & more, with real running power behind it too.

     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Diego Leon and Sekou Kone are two of the young Manchester United players who could go out on loan in January, and Ayden Heaven's situation is also likely to be assessed - Daily Mail
     

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