England U-18 Discussions Thread (2006 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by Jenks, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Correct me if I’m wrong but it feels like City have pretty much dominated the domestic leagues this season at youth level but with only one City player in this squad, is this a fair representation? Don’t mean this to be a prickly question, just curious really.
     
  2. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Most of their best 2004s aren't English. Van Sas (Netherlands), Larios (Spain), Mebude and Adam (Scotland), Borges (Portugal), it's just Gyabi, Katongo and Lewis missing from this squad.
     
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  3. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Mebude was born in London. His stats are crazy at under 18 level. We should be trying to poach the lad.
     
  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It be interesting to see how the 2006 generations and onwards get on as they won’t be as many non England eligible players post Brexit playing alongside them in the junior leagues.
     
  5. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    It's a pretty strong age group for Man Utd and Liverpool & there isn't one player for them. Obviously various reasons and Cannonier and Shoretire haven't helped themselves at times.

    Liverpool
    Mabaya, Miles, Jonas, Chambers, Gordon, Cannonier

    Man Utd
    Collyer, Gore, Forson, Shoretire, Mather
     
  6. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    So, is the squad a fair reflection on the best players being picked or would it suggest it’s an experimental squad to give others an opportunity which is fair enough since it’s only friendlies. I know others have suggested in the past that politics are also at play, ie not wanting to select a certain amount of players from one team etc. Not sure I believe that but I’m not in the know.
     
  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Shoretire has been with the under 19’s this year so maybe he is going to part of the tournament squad for the under 19’s euros.
     
  8. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I think it is a number of factors but obviously as Fireburn mentions above there are a few 2004s that are playing up with the U19s. Selections seem to have been fairly consistent. You also can't control what other clubs have. City, United, Liverpool might have 'strong' group but individuals at other clubs classed as better for overall squad balance and selection in specific positions.

    A bit of a surprise how many 2004s have played up considering the strength of 2003 born group a few years ago who really only has Bellingham, Elliott and Colwill pulled in groups above.

    We talking Setford, Norton-Cuffy, Chambers, James, Devine, Gordon, Scarlett playing for 19s or 20s in the last internationals from the 2004s. Shoretire has played for the 19s & maybe Bynoe-Gittens skips 18s minutes and gets his first U19 call-up after his recognition at Dortmund.

    From Transfermarkt. Most U18 minutes 2021/22

    Not in the current squad but been playing up in Blue
    In the current squad in Green
    Not in the current squad in Red.


    1. Rico Lewis 433
    2. Sammy Braybrooke 373
    3. Jack Wells-Morrison 349

    4. Sam Mather 347
    5. Divin Mubama 315
    6. Lewis Hall 313
    7. Michael Olakigbe 306
    8. Sonny Perkins 305

    9. Daniel Gore 278
    10. James Clarridge 256

    11. Brodi Hughes 253
    12. George Hall 237

    13. Terence Miles 221
    14. Charlie Setford 202
    15. Harvey Araujo 186
    15. Charlie Webster 186

    17. Brooke Norton-Cuffy 179
    18. Ben Nelson 169
    18. Reull Walters 169
    20. James Beadle 165
    21. Zak Sturge 162

    22. Lee Jonas 147
    23. Jadel Katongo 145
    24. Darko Gyabi 135

    25. Jude Soonsup-Bell 134
    26. Kian Pennant 124

    27. Elijah Campbell 112
    28. Zak Emmerson 111

    29. Tommy Simkin 94
    30. Isaac Mabaya 90
    31. Ollie Arblaster 87
    32. Joe Whitworth 76
    32. Kaden Rodney 76

    32. Kaide Gordon 76
    35. Oakley Cannonier 66
    36. Victor Akinwale 64
    37. Josh Robinson 58
    38. Max Thompson 45
    38. Silko Thomas 45
    40. Jack Hall 44

    41. Luke Chambers 33
    41. Jacob Knightbridge 33
    43. Jamie Bynoe-Gittens 24
    44. Richard Olise 14
    45. Jordan Hackett 10

    46. Thierry Small 0
    46. Finley Potter 0
     
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  9. kingeric07

    kingeric07 Member

    man united
    England
    May 31, 2018
    Being picked for England at these youth ages is far from the be all and end all. There will be just as many if not more players who end up having a better professional career than the lads who are picked for England youth on a regular basis.
     
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  10. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    It's youth football at the end of the day. Players develop at different rates and a good game at 18 doesn't determine where you are at 19 and whether you can mentally deal with the demands and pressures of breaking into senior football & whether you can stay there and perform.

    But selectors and coaches do as good a job as possible compared to over a decade ago.

    They seem to stick to their core from early age groups and add and remove as they feel confident too as time goes on. We lucky that we have such a demanding and testing football pyramid that if anyone falls through the net they are given a good opportunity to prove themselves.
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Rico Lewis of Man City has withdrawn from the Squad and has been replaced by Bradley Ibrahim of Arsenal
     
  12. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    City looking at Ben Nelson according to reports. He's Northampton born but played for Scotland before England. Perhaps a later developer playing for Scotland before we were interested?
     
  13. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Victor Akinwale (Palace) has been called up. Not sure who, if anyone, he's replacing.

    Might be Soonsup-Bell as his Instagram suggests he's on holiday.
     
  14. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Jude was on holiday but is back now. Dunno if he's pulled out mind.
     
  15. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Beadle, Walters, L.Hall, Braybrooke, Hughes, Nelson, G.Hall, Wells-Morrison, Mubama, Pennant, Small.

    vs Austria today.
     
  16. Jimmy Skitz

    Jimmy Skitz Member+

    Leicester City
    England
    Nov 4, 2020
    where is this being shown mate?
     
  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I doubt it’s shown anywhere mate
     
  18. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Won 3-2, George Hall, Mubama and Arblaster with the goals, Brodi Hughes sent off for two yellows.
     
  19. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    England leading Wales 1-0 at HT in Zagreb.
     
  20. Jimmy Skitz

    Jimmy Skitz Member+

    Leicester City
    England
    Nov 4, 2020
    any idea what the team is?
     
  21. Tommy85

    Tommy85 New Member

    Oct 30, 2017
    England 2-0 final score

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  22. Calculator

    Calculator Member

    Aug 6, 2021
  23. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Team is

    Whitworth
    Walters
    Small
    Braybrooke
    Nelson
    Potter
    Perkins
    G Hall
    Mubama
    Wells-Morrison
    Pennant
     
  24. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    This has been thoroughly tedious.
     
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  25. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Not joking, I fell asleep watching it, just woke up with 8 mins or so to go and feel I didn’t miss a thing.
     

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