England U-17 Discussions Thread #3 (2007 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by england66, Jul 8, 2011.

  1. zXen

    zXen Member

    Oct 16, 2008
    England
    http://www.thefa.com/England/mens-u17s/News/2011/nordics-squad-120711

    Can't believe the likes of Chris Long has got the chance to impress in this tournament ahead of Adam Campbell.
     
  2. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    A few random ones but it's hard to comment much when we don't know who is in the other squad. Didn't expect that many newish faces.
     
  3. zXen

    zXen Member

    Oct 16, 2008
    England
    By other squad do you mean the squad that Peacock will pick for the the FA International Tournament?
     
  4. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  5. zXen

    zXen Member

    Oct 16, 2008
    England
    I hope players aren't going to miss out on both tournaments too, but the FAIT tends to be of a higher quality than the Nordics, the better players come back from the previous tournaments added to the ones that impressed here. I'd personally be surprised if Campbell got a go at the FAIT now.
    Doesn't surprise me with Man City. Crewe have done well to keep hold of their prized academy assets recently though.

    Notice on the squad sheet the FA haven't updated Angus Gunn's move to Man City too btw, they still think he is at Norwich City :rolleyes:.

    Also that forward Mason-Bennett was Derby's Academy Player of the Season:

    http://www.dcfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10270~2039180,00.html
     
  6. mo0.

    mo0. Member

    Apr 2, 2011
    Club:
    Swindon Town FC
    good to see Gunn's Citeh move hasn't been recognized by theFA. well done.
     
  7. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    You are wrong mate. Liverpool were nowhere near their full strength side either. The team they put was missing Belford, Robinson, Flanagan, Coady, Wisdom and Suso. Last season Man U won the Youth Cup encounter and Liverpool won both Academy League games.
     
  8. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Peacock on the FA International Tournament -

    http://www.thefa.com/England/mens-u17s/News/2011/international-tournament-2011
     
  9. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Interesting piece on the two Derby players. Mason Bennett is only just about to turn 15.

    http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/R...Iceland-trip/story-12938564-detail/story.html
     
  10. zXen

    zXen Member

    Oct 16, 2008
    England
    Mason-Bennett is probably one of the players that will come back for the next Victory Shield, since that is how this tournament is used for some players.
     
  11. mo0.

    mo0. Member

    Apr 2, 2011
    Club:
    Swindon Town FC
    makes you wonder why we dont have an U15 side as well, considering how young we're picking them for the 17s.
     
  12. zXen

    zXen Member

    Oct 16, 2008
    England
    It's been mentioned on here in the past by a few of us that we should have a U15 side in place by now. Other nations have this level, yet we don't. There would be so many benefits, it's quite amazing the FA haven't implemented one yet.
     
  13. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    The U15 issue has been questioned on here for years and everyone I've asked at the FA has always ignored it. I got an answer of sorts from Nick Levett on twitter -

    http://twitter.com/#!/Barryfrom/status/91928789566763008

    http://twitter.com/#!/nlevett/status/91937692845211651

    http://twitter.com/#!/Barryfrom/status/91938959445344256

    http://twitter.com/#!/nlevett/status/91941992736636928

    http://twitter.com/#!/Barryfrom/status/91942919807827968

    http://twitter.com/#!/nlevett/status/91944231366692864

    http://twitter.com/#!/Barryfrom/status/91945455625318400

    http://twitter.com/#!/nlevett/status/91946985690640385

    http://twitter.com/#!/Barryfrom/status/91948661499637760

    http://twitter.com/#!/nlevett/status/91949578240278528

    http://twitter.com/#!/Barryfrom/status/91950728553316352

    http://twitter.com/#!/nlevett/status/91961836454428673
     
  14. zXen

    zXen Member

    Oct 16, 2008
    England
    Atleast Levett is willing to discuss the matter. Having an U15 level with possibly a new coach would improve the structure to our youth setup a lot. Other nations just arrange friendlies with each other at U15 level, it's not rocket science.
     
  15. mo0.

    mo0. Member

    Apr 2, 2011
    Club:
    Swindon Town FC
    yea, Levett is superb on twitter. very open and amenable to questions.
     
  16. zXen

    zXen Member

    Oct 16, 2008
    England
    Max Clark has been replaced by Alastair Gordon.
     
  17. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I assume Clark will be with the U16's now then.
     
  18. zXen

    zXen Member

    Oct 16, 2008
    England
    Yeah, Clark is young enough. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill will have to hope that Peacock gives him a call up in the FA International Tournament.
     
  19. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I would assume it would be Luke Shaw for that tournament.
     
  20. zXen

    zXen Member

    Oct 16, 2008
    England
    Yeah, Shaw has already cemented that place for himself. Ormonde-Ottewill has had 68 mins so far, in the 0-3 win over N.I, shame he hasn't had anymore opportunities. He is rated highly at Arsenal.
     
  21. The Guardian

    The Guardian Member+

    Jul 31, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Pundits and the like often refer to our u15 team. We used to have the schools team which were called u15s but was actually u16.

    I don't think we should have an u15 side. There's no point. And too early.
     
  22. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas
    That team used to play Germany at Wembly every year IIRC yet hardly any of those 14- 15 year olds ever made it to the full side....they were invariably the lads who had matured early and, at age 14/15 were biologically "men" though cronologically still "kids"...the 14/15 year olds who were still kids never got a look in.
     
  23. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I've never heard any 'pundits' discuss it at all.

    Of course there is a point. Almost every other nation has one and bringing players into the training camps and playing one or two tournaments would help. Instead of just letting them go off with other nations' U15 teams.
     
  24. The Guardian

    The Guardian Member+

    Jul 31, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    a) Do you listen much to pundits? I do. A hell of a lot. I've got diplomas for it. And it's not just pundits - it's (many) fans in general who think there is an u15 team.

    b) I don't have any fears of losing players to other countries at u15 level.
     

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