England U-17 Discussions Thread #3 (2008 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by england66, Jul 8, 2011.

  1. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    We need better coaching at this level. Italy look superior in terms of shape
     
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  2. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Just so desperately poor at defending any crosses into the box. We seem utterly incapable of winning anything in the box. Really low level stuff to be failing at so consistently.
     
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  3. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    The players look more interested in impressing their clubs than playing as a team
     
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  4. itsonlymemate

    itsonlymemate Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    yep absolutely zero chemistry
     
  5. itsonlymemate

    itsonlymemate Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    might actually improve now dowmans off
     
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  6. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Ridgeon just needed composure there and he would have been set but had a poor touch in the box.
     
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  7. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I wonder if Gareth Southgate would be interested in returning to the England under age groups. He might have got alot of stick for his defensive tactics but he knew how to set a team up
     
  8. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    That goal!!! Oh my god! Well, that’s that! Really poor! I have no words!
     
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  9. itsonlymemate

    itsonlymemate Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    load of nonsense
     
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  10. StortfordSpurs1882

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 28, 2023
    Could see Italy winning this euros again, they look a decent, well-organised team.
     
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  11. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Well that's presumably the tournament done and dusted, probably the worst side at defending set pieces I've ever seen. Literally anything going into the box looks like its going to end in a goal for Italy. The only way to describe the side is Boothroyd-esque.

    Must say Porter really hasn't helped with the set pieces either, he looks terrified. Rooted to the spot anytime the ball comes to the box and no surprise he's let that one roll in.
     
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  12. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Agreed not as talented as us but superior in terms of team play and setup
     
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  13. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Not sure we've looked particularly talented this tournament relative to other nations.
     
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  14. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah you can clearly see there’s a big difference between the two teams, one knows what’s it’s doing and everyone knows each others game and the other one is just thrown on there and said go out and play.
     
  15. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    We rely too much on individual moments
     
  16. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    We'll never compete at this level until there's an overhaul of coaching. What are they teaching them at St George's
     
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  17. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    While that's true I think our passing has largely been dreadful and I don't think we've shown that much technically relative to the other top teams, there is any awful lot more to being a good footballer than dribbling ability which seems to be the main strength of a lot of the players.

    I would say last years Under 17 side looked somewhat more technically accomplished than this year, Mikey Moore in particularly was far more impressive than any of the array of dribblers we've seen here.
     
  18. itsonlymemate

    itsonlymemate Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    Nobody in this team has got anywhere near the levels of Mikey Moore and Nwaneri last year
     
  19. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Reigan Heskey has looked pretty good since he's come on, in large part because he's the only one of our wide players who actually wants to release the ball.
     
  20. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    We really can’t defend at all. Cost us dearly today.

    Hope it is not a harbinger of the summer to come for both Men and Women.
     
  21. itsonlymemate

    itsonlymemate Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    France, Belgium, Italy, Portugal clearly the 4 best teams
     
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  22. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Really thought we'd beat them today because they're missing a lot of players but clearly they're just really well coached and those who've come in have done just as well.
     
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  23. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah was gonna say the same plus also the subs seem to have better balance of the team than the starters. I certainly don’t think we were good and didn’t deserve anything but surely the coach and his selections were questionable from the start.
     
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  24. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Maybe just overrated? Look great in our league but not up to the standards of the players in Europe?
     
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  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Porter's kicking has been awful this tournament
     

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