England U-17 Discussions Thread #3 (2008 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by england66, Jul 8, 2011.

  1. AZChas

    AZChas Member

    Jun 1, 2014
    Club:
    Brighton & Hove Albion FC
    It's been suggested on the Brighton and Hove Albion forum North Stand Chat that Howell has remained with Albion and will be in the squad again for the Spurs match on Sunday.
     
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  2. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's quite ridiculous to have picked Howell tbh. Even if the idea is for him to join up for a potential semi-final it's a stupid idea when we're in such a hard group. There are multiple players who could've been called into the team (particularly in midfield) who could've made a big impact.
     
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  3. itsonlymemate

    itsonlymemate Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    thats a shame
     
  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Sounds like a waste of time. The FA have done this before but it’s not worth it. Maybe plans did change and they thought he would be available until they delayed him or even asked him back from training.
     
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  5. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    the logistics of hosting an 8 team, 2 week long tournament in 4 stadiums, needs more than 2 months notice
     
  6. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    #9831 MrSnrub, May 23, 2025
    Last edited: May 23, 2025
    If Argentina can step in with just over a months notice to take over the 24 team under 20 World Cup it seems unlikely it’s logistically especially challenging to arrange an 8 team youth team tournament. Particularly given countries are already used to hosting 4 teams in the qualifying round.

    I mean I’d get that for senior level but if you play an off season youth tournament it seems implausible that the most the countries who usually qualify for these 8 team tournaments wouldn't be able to scale up to accommodate 2 extra stadiums, and a few extra training facilities for a off season tournament. A lot of the stadiums that get used in the small hosts are often worse than a lot of non-league sides in the first place so it’s not like the selection criteria is especially rigid.
     
  7. StortfordSpurs1882

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 28, 2023
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    BBC putting the effort in with one of the Match of the Day commentators on commentary duty,

    Draw for the U17 World Cup is on Sunday I’ve just seen.
     
  9. StortfordSpurs1882

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 28, 2023
    Italy ahead from the spot.
     
  10. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    England have been poor
     
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  11. itsonlymemate

    itsonlymemate Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    how Williams-Barnett doesn't make this team is beyond me
     
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  12. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    We’re absolutely all over the place, Italy just faster sharper, winning every duel so far.
     
  13. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    It’s been a very stereotypical England performance in terms of complete inability to keep the ball under pressure, constantly losing it when it’s played in midfield and relying on lumping it forward.

    Not overly surprising given the gaping chasm that appeared in the midfield last game, really look a midfielder short.
     
  14. itsonlymemate

    itsonlymemate Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    Dowman and Rio gotta learn to pass the freaking ball
     
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  15. StortfordSpurs1882

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 28, 2023
    1-1 Rodriguez
     
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  16. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    That’s better! See what happens when you pass the ball in the box :ninja:
     
  17. itsonlymemate

    itsonlymemate Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    u see... get ur head up, pass, score
     
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  18. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Excellent breakaway goal. Good work from Benamar who’s been a very useful addition to the side to say he only came in last minute, and another excellent finish from Rodriguez who looks the best finisher we’ve had at this level for a while, his rawness to be expected given he was playing Sunday league until 2022.
     
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  19. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Dowman getting fouled everytime he gets the ball, getting ridiculous
     
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  20. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Dowman is clearly a wonderful technical talent but you can see he’s still awfully raw in a lot of ways, especially in his decision making and realistically a pretty long way from making any waves in senior level football. Not at all surprising for someone who’s 15 but I think some tempering of the expectation I see for him is needed.
     
  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    That’s a terrible goal to concede! I mean you have to defend that!
     
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  22. StortfordSpurs1882

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jun 28, 2023
    Behind again, scrappy defending in the box
     
  23. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Shit defending. Dowman wants to take on too many players. In fact they all do
     
  24. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    We just don’t seem to play as a team, Italy always looking for options but our players seem to try to do too much with the ball. When the left back gets the ball and looks to cross it is when we look more likely to score. The Liverpool lad just seems to run and run with the ball, got to get his head up and pass.
     
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  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Where's the coaching? It feels like he just sends the players out and hopes for the best
     
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