England U-17 Discussions Thread #3 (2008 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by england66, Jul 8, 2011.

  1. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    #9701 Regis Prograis, May 12, 2025
    Last edited: May 12, 2025
    Very few genuine full back options in this squad, presumably Burrowes is in as RB. Not really a fan of the way they've cycled through full backs during this cycle. I guess they'll probably play a back 3 with wing backs.
     
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  2. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Players who were called up during the cycle and not involved
    Goalkeepers
    Dylan Moody, Maxwell Moses, Owen Asemota, Aidan Stokes

    Defenders
    Dean Benamer, Dante Headley, Hayden Ford, Goodwill Kukonki, Jayden Ngwashi, Wesley Okoduwa, Theo Juliene, Lewi Richards

    Midfielders
    Chinaza Nwosu, Harrison Miles, Jack McGrath, Anton Palmer, Luke Rawlings, Reggie Walsh, Max Jenner

    Forwards
    Bailey Palmer, Igor Tyjon, Andre Dyke, Chizaram Ezenwata
     
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  3. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018


    First goal here, don't need to know Spanish to understand this

     
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  4. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Nwosu seems an odd one to leave out. Is he fit? He was one of the most impressive in qualifying.

    Seems to me like we have overloaded on attacking options.
     
  5. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    Yes, I don´t understand that decision either unless it´s injury-related.

    EDIT: same for Miles who´s started the FA Youth Cup final and has played a lot more for City´s u18s lately.
     
  6. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Miles only played in the friendly games. So, was probably going to struggle to make this squad.

    Saying that it feels like a CM has missed out to fit other options in the squad. They are relying on using the versatility of certain attackers to compensate.

    How are they going to use all of those attackers though? Close to half the squad is attack minded options.
     
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  7. Port Vale Fan

    Port Vale Fan Member

    May 30, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Simmonds or Hardy at RB - Braithwaite will probably start all three games at LB.
     
  8. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Yeah I know they can play there, but seems silly to not actually pick a genuine RB, given they've used plenty in friendlies and qualifiers.
     
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  9. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Even weirder because we have a RB option as good as Okoduwa. This is 2 or 3 squads in a row he's missed now. He still hasn't played competitively for England despite being capped 14 times at U16-17 level, so I wonder if it's something to do with not wanting to provisionally cap-tie himself yet.
     
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    He was born in the USA - does he actually have a British passport. He might still be living on a USA one.
     
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  11. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I assume this is rhetorical question because unless that information is in the public domain, no one on here is going to know!
     
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  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Harry Howell is Jack Hinshelwood’s cousin so there is a decent chance that we will have two sets of relatives in the U21 and U17 squads.
     
  13. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    All these games should be on the BBC!
     
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  14. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    And they should also be on the UEFA website where you can also watch the Youth Games for those who aren´t in the UK at that time (My free vpn works for the England YouTube channel when they stream the u21s but somehow doesn´t when I try to watch the BBC. Do you face the same issues in Sweden? @Marcho Gamgee
     
  15. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah it’s exactly the same for me also sadly so UEFA website is usually the only way I can watch these U17 Championships.
     
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  16. itsonlymemate

    itsonlymemate Member

    Apr 1, 2013
    This team is very attack heavy with many extreme talents. trying to play them all will hurt the team.

    personally id pick the best 2 and try and build the team around them. my 2 would be Max Dowman and Luca Williams-Barnett, if they can play together im not sure many teams would be able to cope
     
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  17. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Iddrisa Dauda (West Brom) & Laurence Giani (Stoke) make the Italy squad that we'll face.

    In the other group Spurs' Leon Myrtaj makes Albania's squad.
     
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  18. Port Vale Fan

    Port Vale Fan Member

    May 30, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Whatever the shape and make up of the defence the attackers and midfield are tasty.

    Mouthwatering really.

    Will it be two 10s and one holding player?

    Or one 10 and two orthodox midfielders?

    x x x x
    Emenalo
    Gorman Dowman
    McAidoo Gray Heskey


    x x x x
    Page Ridgeon
    Williams-Barnett
    Howell Gomes Ngumoha

    Burrowes & Mantato too. A settled defence playing through the tournament might help with the regular protective team changes further forward.
     
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  19. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
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  20. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
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    Ipswich Town FC
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  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC


    All squads listed in this link plus a little run down on the opposition.
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I think this will get more attention than prehaps usual because of Max Dowman - he has already had quite a few articles in the Athletic and other media and he hasn’t made his senior debut yet.
     
  23. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    #9723 Regis Prograis, May 16, 2025
    Last edited: May 16, 2025
    I've only observed Myrtaj on a limited number of occasions, and at this point, he doesn't quite seem of the level to make England squads at this stage. Has anyone watched Dauda or Giani? would they be legitimate contenders for inclusion in the current squad?"
     
  24. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    I like Dauda a lot, think he's a very good player, but he probably doesn't make the squad. Has only this season been moved from CB to midfield at West Brom and then Italy now use him at RB.

    Giani is a good player but his repeated selection has puzzled me as personally I think Italy have a good 2-3 better LBs domestically.
     
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  25. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    #9725 Slater582, May 16, 2025
    Last edited: May 16, 2025
    As I recall they were these last couple of years but Wales haven't qualified this time...


    Was wondering if Mfuni would go to the U17 World Cup in Qatar later this year but it actually takes place at same time as U19 UEFA qualifying round and he'll be their best central defender despite still being a year young.


    Had Dowman been eligible to play in this Premier League season maybe Arteta would've wanted to give him minutes and he wouldn't be attending this UEFA tournament.:confused:


    I've heard Neil Ryan is quite an attacking coach. Nwosu featured for West Ham youth in their most recent fixture so I assume he's not injured.

    Did Chelsea not release Reggie Walsh for this tournament?
     
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