The 11 wasn’t great anyway. Lampard / Gerrard / Beckham might look good on papier but in reality they absolutely couldn’t string 2 short passes together against good opposition
Trent Alexander-Arnold is likely to miss out on a selection for England at the Euros. There is 'no indication' that TAA has leapfrogged his rivals in Southgate’s mind. [Via - @David_Ornstein] pic.twitter.com/gKK3Trcv3Q— Footy Accumulators (@FootyAccums) May 17, 2021 Very dumb If true
I completely agree. That 2004 2006 team was vastly overrated. Yes there were some great players in that team but no genuine world class match winners in midfield. Lampard and Gerrard weren't elite players. Neither had a high technical level. Ferdinand and Terry were world class as was Ashley Cole Rooney Owen were top quality as was a Scholes but technical level point of view it wasn't top quality. It would have been better to have had carrick in there than Gerrard Lampard
The only way to accommodate what we had was a diamond ......Owen....Rooney ...........Lampard ....gerrard.........beckham ................scholes Cole...Rio......Campbell...Neville
You could maybe play a 433 with Gerrard as a right sided attacker. Also if it was after Scholes had retired play carrick or hargreaves as your DM. Anyway its all ifs and buts now.
Cheating....really? Beckham, Gerrard and Lampard all received numerous votes in Ballon D'Or nomiations and have received acolades from many players and managers from outside England. This suggests to me that they were rightly highly thought of and the suggestion that they weren't elite seems completely wrong to me. The 2004-2006 team probably suffered from lack of balance more than anything, which is why i'm quite sympathetic to Southgate not having TAA as first choice as in my opinion, he isn't completely the right player for the style we are likely to play.
and this is why England fail, managers and especially fans want all the stars with no thought to how it would actually work, you have Paul Scholes as a DM ffs. Sven didn't have the balls to make the touch decision needed, ONE of Gerrard and Lampard. If he had we would have had a more balanced and effective midfield
Exactly. Make a decision. Or do a Ron Greenwood and alternate them. If you've got 4 world class strikers, you don't try to play them all.
he’s not a dm he’s a deep lying playmaker just because you sit deep doesn’t mean you are dunga please learn about positions and how a diamond works
Scholes didn't start playing in a deeper role until at least a couple of years after quitting England. He was an attacking midfielder when Sven was in charge.
look at the other players in that midfield, the deep man would HAVE to be a DM otherwise NONE of them would do any defending, that set up simply wouldn't work on any level the only way the man at the base can be a playmaker is if the 2 wider players are box to box, Gerrard and Beckham weren't. Also a diamond can be played in many different ways, same as every other formation so drop the patronising attitude. You pick the best TEAM not the 11 biggest stars until the England manager and fans learn this we will never be serious contenders
not in a midfield with Lampard, Gerrard and Beckham, you needed a Hargreaves, if you had more of a Jordan Henderson type playing then yes
Gerrard would play box to box and beckham would sit deep carrick was a more than capable single pivot as well either way, it’s better than what we did a flat 442 with scholes on the left in 02
Beckham would never sit deep, the whole point of playing him was to be in a position to cross the ball otherwise he didn't offer much
Kane is putting in a transfer request. As England fans where would should he go? Maybe psg? Or real Madrid. I don't think they will sell to another English club
I'd like to see him sign for Everton. Anyway PSG are the only European club that could afford him. Maybe Bayern Munich with some sort of swap deal with Lewandowski. I think he'll end up at Man City. It could all depend on what sort of euros he has.
Psg would make perfect sense. Mp knows kane better than anyone. He would be a replacement for mbappe. He could score 50 goals in the French league. He wouldn’t have to be at his best. I think there's a chance he will bottle it and decide to stay
Exactly. What style are we talking? The best crosser of the ball in the world to one of the best strikers in the world. What style could be better
I disagree. It's arguably our strongest position and the kid can't defend. He hasn't proved himself for England and there's no time left for him to do it. With another tournament next year I don't see the point in taking a risk on someone who's looked more like a risk for us than a match-winner.