England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    There was an ex player on TalkSport this morning saying that they didn’t make a mistake ... they simply chose to break the rules with no consideration to their teammates , England staff .. family or club..
     
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  2. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I’d seriously ditch them both .

    We now have Coady .. maybe White !?

    Winks and Phillips to replace Rice .

    Dier is too slow and loses concentration so easily .. he’s liked because he ‘gets stuck in’ ..

    Rice I simply don’t get .. mobile and tough isn’t enough at this level .

    Poor control and dreadful passer .
     
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  3. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Sounds like he really likes them ..

    A well known manager apparently said that you have to be careful when you are setting rules and punishments as it’s always the players that you LIKE who end up breaking the rules :)
     
  4. Manchester21

    Manchester21 Member

    Manchester City
    England
    Jun 17, 2017
    a mollycoddled life? Maybe in terms of football, but he’s from a very working class area and I’d imagine he had quite a down to earth up bringing

    both him and greenwood are too good to ignore
     
  5. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member

    Oct 7, 2018
    The evolution of Jack Grealish conspiracy theorists and the Alex Jones-esque videos over the last months is certainly one of the more stranger developments of the national team!
     
  6. Fullerov

    Fullerov Member

    Bristol Rovers
    Nov 30, 2004
    Club:
    Bristol Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Didn't City pay for him to be privately educated?

    It's all speculation as we obviously don't know the guy, but I'd assume being told you're the next big thing as a young kid will lead your psyche/personality to develop differently from those in the squad who've come up from the lower leagues.
     
  7. Manchester21

    Manchester21 Member

    Manchester City
    England
    Jun 17, 2017
    probably most city youngsters go to a college called st Bedes - think it’s called, but it’s mainly focused around football, so it’s not exactly posh..

    You’re right it’s all speculation, but form what I’ve heard he’s a very down to earth guy. One incident doesn’t change that. Knowing the area he’s from as well adds to that
     
  8. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    For anyone who was left yearning for more. You don’t have too long to wait -

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  9. Toosaul

    Toosaul Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    Its real unfortunately. If you look from 1:54 he is talking about new debuts and doesn't even mention Jack which is why the interviewer asked about him. He then talks about Mason mount first.

     
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  10. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Can’t help but think that Southgate will do all he can to keep Grealish out of his plans unless like on this occasion injuries forced his hand. I think the next Squad selection at end of the month will be telling.
     
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  11. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    The interview was fine.

    He didn't mention all of the players who had a debut either.

    Maybe Southgate is just tired of the media banging on about Grealish......
     
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  12. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I’d love to see new manager come in and build the team around Jack ..

    I can dream ..
     
  13. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Southgate is a clown. Why is he so scared of experimenting and attacking with flair?
     
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  14. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah, wasn’t really judging from the interview, it’s just a gut feeling I have. I hope I’m wrong off course, it’s just past comments about how he’s behind others in the Squad and he doesn’t see Grealish as a 10 or an 8 either from memory. I personally see Grealish as a 10 or 8 especially if Southgate plays two other defensive midfielders.
     
  15. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Unlike most of the people on here, I like Southgate and think that he’s the best manager we’ve had since Venables.

    Next month’s fixtures are of paramount importance. I still hold hope that he will have learned and adapted accordingly.

    If he still persists with the double pivot and lack of central creativity though then he deserves to go.
     
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  16. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
     

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  17. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I know this isnt the duel thread but this is what a wales fan wrote...absolute bollocks.


    'Ooh,Ooh it's much, much...much more than 'rich'! Its one rule for them, its an unbelievable superiority complex, maybe they're blind to it I don't know.

    All I say is this, Wales has a huge database of qualified players, and in 99% of instances we invite them into our development squads when they're still in single figures. Over the years they're nurtured etc...well y'know the rest...like Morell's dad said recently, the system is a family that makes you feel at home. No pressure, you stay because you want to and, so far bar a couple, they've all stayed. Basically we've had these lads since they were kids, and along with their parents and clubs, we've helped in their development. Those that haven't followed the path, i.e. Hal, Moore, Ash, Vaulks etc were internationally unattached at the time of our approach.

    Now England? Slightly different story. They spy a dual qualified player attached to another nation and they'll wait, they'll leave him there until it becomes obvious there's something about him, then they'll work on turning his head. Someone else has worked hard with the kid for years but suddenly he's snatched away.

    They've tried now to steal Woodburn, Wilson, Ampadu, DaSilva, Smith, Brooks, Matondo and now Neco. Southgate had a bitchfit in the press the morning after Woodburn scored for us. But if he wants them then they should bloody well do the hard yards and approach them as kids like we do! As Cledwyn Ashford said at the time of Southgate's quote "we don't steal other nation's players, maybe someone should ask him about that!". He then confirmed they've had to deal with more covert approaches than the ones I've mentioned, but I don't know who they were though.

    The FA/England national side are absolutely shameless and Southgate himself is a hypocritical shit!'
     
  18. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Also this

    'Okay I’ve ventured down the England eligibility rabbit hole. I’m fully prepared for a debate with any gammon who wades in with ‘the Welsh lads are all English’. I think it’s clear who pinches the most players - Jamaica & Ireland have been absolutely cleaned out of having a potentially top class side by England. From their recent call ups...

    Alexander-Arnold - USA
    Kane, Maddison, Grealish, Maguire, Keane, Phillips, Rice - Ireland
    Sterling, Walker, Maitland-Niles, C.Wilson, Greenwood, Oxlade-Chamberlain-Chamberlain, Rose - Jamaica
    Mings - Barbados
    Rashford - St Kitts & Nevis
    Delph - Guyana
    Sancho - Trinidad & Tobago
    Tomori - Canada/Nigeria
    Abraham & Barkley - Nigeria
    Hudson-Odoi - Ghana
    Gomez - Gambia
    Dier - Portugal
    Winks - Spain'
     
  19. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I say we give Barkley , Dier and Rice back as a gesture of good will .
     
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  20. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #10470 Marcho Gamgee, Sep 9, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2020
    He’s just talking a load of shite to look good in front of his Welsh buddies, probably looking for reps! I wouldn’t waste your time reading those forums tbh as there’re so anti-English that they manage to convince themselves that they have developed all those players which is mainly a load of nonsense, trust me, I’ve had those conversations with them, bunch of deluded people. Also shows how clueless he is if he thinks all those players should have played for those Countries, lmfao!
     
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  21. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  22. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    So two triple headers coming up. Excessive. Pretty much a waste of time, especially considering how Southgate used these two games.

     
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  23. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    It’s what all the other teams are doing though. Might force Southgate to experiment!
     
  24. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Why even bother reading it? Absolute waste of time. Just getting yourself wound up
     
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  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Actually excited about 6 games in 2 months. A chance for a few players to get experience. Im also sure saka will get a call up. Im sure there's one or two players that will pop up out of nowhere like maybe Ben White. Maybe nketiah. Love to see a game with maddison and grealish starting together
     

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