England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

Shaw still has time to prove he's world class if he lives up to his potential while it's not totally clear if Sessegnon will be a winger instead of a LB. Surely he has to pick LB concerning his England ambitions because he's got a long shot to overtake Sancho and Hudson-Odoi, not to mention Curtis Jones and several other older players. At LB he's already one of the best in our entire pool of players.

 

I personally think he is more of a Wing back rather than an orthodox LB, or a traditional winger like Sancho or Odoi, and if Southgate continues with the current system, having both Sessegnon at LWB and Sancho or Odoi playing In the role that Sterling is currently doing, once they get enough experience they will give any team panic attacks.

 

It effectively feels like Utd have got a new player in Shaw this season, he looks super fit compared to the previous season and if he’s as sharp as he looks it should be a good season for him for both Utd and England especially if he can get the pre injury form. Let’s see if Mourinho gives him another shot or has he already made his mind up about him, in which case it could be another wasted season.

 

Think you've forgotten A-A at RB. He should be able to step right in for Young.

 

Young is a LB.

 

Apparently Luke Shaw is up for sale

 

What rotten luck! Hope he comes back stronger.

Can’t stand seeing people on social media ( a lot of Arsenal fans ) making jokes about this! It’s not a pleasant injury and rehabilitation is tough. I should know having done both cruciates due to football! It’s a bitch of an injury and by the sounds of it his must be even worse..

 

I saw this. So aweful. Poor guy. I felt like he was starting to really motor. Would have loved to have seen him at the world cup

 

Damn! It's almost improbable now he'll won't be as good as he was. Can't see him being selected for the Euros unless he totally commits himself getting back in shape and then some by the 2019-2020 season. He will have been off the "train" for far too long.

 

Yeah probably the prime of his career over if true and just as he was looking to have figured his game out. I remember as a kid Redondo (who I loved) going through a similar situation, he was never the same again.

 

He's 24, he shouldn't be written off yet.

 

Serious Injuries can wreck a players career . You only have to look at the great Brazilian striker Ronaldo . He was only a shadow of the player he was when he came back after a long lay off.

Chamberlains whole game is dependent on pace and running at players . If he comes back without his pace he will become a mid table premier league player at best .

He doesn't have any real footballing intelligence or a passing game to fall back on.

 

Mourinho is destroying this kids career . He should be the best full back in the premier league . I think he needs to move away from Man United . He needs a manager that believes in him.

 

I don't think Southgate has any real appreciation for midfielders at all . People talk about Southgate been a progressive manager but whats progressive about playing three ball playing defenders at the back if they can't defend and Jordan Henderson in midfield .

Another myth about Southgate is that he promotes youth and played a young team . Correct me if I am wrong but the only youth players he played were Ali and Rashford .

All the others were in their mid to late twenties . I think the average age of the squad was 26 or something .

Also people say that Southgate didn't have any midfielders to bring but he left Will Hughes, Jack Wilshere and Jonjoe Shelvey at home .

While none of them are world beaters . Its the best that England have at the moment and all three would have offered far more against Croatia than Ali, lLinguard and Henderson.

 

Yeah, it was 26.0, which gave us the second youngest squad out of the thirty-two squads at the World Cup. The starting eleven had about the same average age. Southgate's also involved quite a few under-21s who didn't make the squad in Gomez, Cook, Abraham, Solanke, Gunn and so on. I'm not sure why you think it's a myth that he's played a young team?

 

ChristianSur got in their first on the age thing but on the three midfielders you've listed - all had big question marks over them either for fitness or attitude and their inclusion/exclusion has been done to death on here.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/991803/Tottenham-transfer-news-Jack-Grealish-Aston-Villa

 

Really hope that goes through. I think Grealish might have more quality than Dele. Either way you hope to expect that both will push each other for the starting spot.

 

He is far more talented player than Ali . I am still baffled as to why people think Ali is an amazingly talented player . Even pundits in my country are drooling over his talent . I don't get it.

I am not saying Ali is a bad player, he is a good premier league player but he is no where near a player like Modric, de bruyne , silva, pogba etc . I would even have jonjo shelvey ahead of him.

Pundits say he will improve a lot but know I don't know where he can . He has quite a limited skill set . He has no pace , he can't go past players , doesn't have great close control, average passing ability . His only strength is his striking ability of a football and his high scoring ability for an attacking midfielder. He scored a lot of goals in his breakthrough season with spurs but I think that is aone off . I don't think he is going become a goal scoring machine like Lampard .

Grealish on the other hand is a very special player . The kid is special . I haven't seen an English player dribble with the ball like he does since Gascoigne. He has quick feet , great close control, incredible vision and awareness. The only think lacking in his game is his shooting .

As well as Grealish, Will Hughes is a special talent . Why a player of his ability is playing with Watford I don't know .

Lewis Cook is another . Both those guys can play in midfield and link things up . I am baffled that Southgate didn't take them to the world cup.

 

christ.

 

Lmao. Perfect.

 

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