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Fergie canned Tim Howard after he made one mistake vs Porto.......patience with goalkeepers is NOT Fergies strong suit....having said that, and as much as I'd like Foster to be the man he does fcuk up an awful lot.

 

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The blunder against Porto was the last of a series. As for Foster, I've been really disappointed in him so far. He looked great for Watford in their Premier League season, but he's been far too blunder-prone so far this season.

 

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I think one last loan might prove useful for him. He can't afford to make these mistakes at United, but getting some consistent time at a club outside the top 4, where there is less pressure on him, would allow him the time needed to work and iron out the kinks in his game. Doubt this is in the cards though, it's hit or miss for Benny, and he really needs to start stepping it up or he could be on his way. ()

 

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It's a lot easier to look good at a crap team who are giving up 10+ chances each game (Russell Hoult looked top class for West Brom a few years back and some were touting him for the England squad). The mark of a great keeper is to pull off saves when he's had nothing to do for 20 minutes.

 

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In fairness to Foster he's gone from barely playing at all in 2 years from injury and Van der Sarr to suddenly thrown into regular starting. It is not as if he'd played much football before then either.

Fergie said he's going to stick with him this weekend, last chance for him I suspect though.

 

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I still think he's a good keeper, his problem is a lack of experience. He's 26 and only been a regular for 2 seasons at Watford and barely played more than 100 league matches.. Rob Green is only 3 years older than him but has played over three times as many games.

 

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Foster is never gonna be a great keeper. Any great keeper would have claimed that number 1 spot at Manure by now. Carson, Hart, Foster are all nothing keepers. They all had their chances, and have failed.

Luckily enough Green is quite young, and will likely be our number 1 for the next decade, unless maybe we produce someone amazing in that time,

 

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Hart only had one game I think against T+T, even that was only half a game. He deserves a chance I think, Green has proved that he can be our number 1, but I think Hart is the all round better keeper

 

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Hart had his chance at Man Sheiky. He blew it, and that's why Given is their number 1.

 

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Bollocks. He is a young keeper, and was actually doing very well at Man City, but they wanted a top class proven keeper. Hart has been in good form for Birmingham as well at the moment. To say he has blown it is ridiculous and a pathetic attempt at trolling. He will be England's number one in a few years I think. He is also is very good at saving penalties which is a bonus.

 

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The likes of Casillas were already well established by Hart's age. Hart may very well turn out to be a decent keeper, but he'll never be World class.

 

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He's 22 ffs. How many keepers are established at such an age? Casillas and Buffon were, but they are two of the very best keepers you'll ever see.

Julio Cesar didn't become a regular for Flamengo until his early 20s and didn't make his international debut until 25. Van der Saar was 23 before he became Ajax's number 1 and was almost 25 when he made his Dutch debut. Both of those either are are were world class.
Dino Zoff was 26 before he made his international debut, Neville Southall was 23, Oliver Kahn 25. 3 all time greats there who indicate that even some of the best keepers don't start to develop fully until their mid 20s.

 

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People are using his age as an excuse, when I've demonstrated that you can be great when you are his age. Hart doesn't have the aura or presence of a great keeper. Rooney and Walcott had it, and that's why they were both picked before they had even played that well for their clubs, but you could see their raw talent. Hart doesn't look that great at all.

He'll probably turn out to be a decent keeper, but won't come close to World Class.

 

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And I've shown that you can be an all-time great without being great at 22. Very few keepers are even approaching world class at that age - most won't reach that level until they're in their late 20s or even their early 30s. Peter Schmeichel is probably the best keeper in England over the past 20 years, and he wasn't a top player until his mid 20s.
Just because Rooney was a top player as a teenager doesn't mean every other great striker will be. Ian Wright didn't play in the top flight until he was 25 and only went to a big club when he was almost 28.

 

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Casillas at 22 was a mix of fantastic saves and poor (for that level) positioning. If Real Madrid had wanted a better keeper immediately they could easily have found one, but they preferred to keep spending all their money on their galacticos and stick with homegrown players for the defence.

 

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Soon we will need a match thread for the Ukraine game..

 

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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=683470&sec=worldcup2010&cc=5739

probably why we wont get the world cup bid.
We have to get backing from parasites like this guy.

 

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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5615385,00.html

The numpty from the FA knows what warner wants.

More bribe money to line his pockets...
nothing to do with being 'arrogant'.

 

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"England, in the eyes of my colleagues and me, does not have a divine right to host the World Cup.''

He admitted England had the best Premier League in the world, the best football tradition in the world, the best football stadia in the world, and star players. But Warner believes the bid is far from reaching its full potential.


Warner is a f---in idiot. He still has this weird chip on the shoulder when it comes to England. If England has all of the above that he mentions then why on Earth wouldn't England be the best host??? He also complained that Australians had given out bags of goodies to him and his 'friends' but he didn't get anything from England.

So the only reasons he come can up with for England not getting 2018 is because England isn't marketing itself good enough and not giving out gifts to his cronies. Everyone knows England is the home of football, has the best stadia, arguably the best league, stars, and will not have hosted the WC in 52 years! England doesn't need to market itself, it does a good enough job already. What it comes down to is corrupt men in suits like usual.