England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

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  1. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    #22701 Regis Prograis, Apr 20, 2026
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    Did you watch the game? I wasn’t able to, but some of his numbers don’t look greatest and saw he got the lowest rating for Lyon from L’Equipe, I’m sure he had a decent enough game, but not sure he was great.

    Here the whole, match if anyone fancies analysing Morton’s performance, hopefully Tuchel is!

    https://m1xdrop.click/e/wlkd993ec7q8q8
     
  2. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah I didn’t see it either but was regularly checking on my app and he was the lowest rating for Lyon there also.
     
  3. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    I didn't see the game, no. Footmercato, one of the other French newspapers however, praised Morton for the way he "relentlessly sought to break up PSG’s passing patterns ... provided a constant threat... and was invaluable in disrupting the Parisians' midfield".

    I guess the truth lies somewhere between the two. Either way, Lyon are up to third and Morton has played a big part in getting them into the CL places.
     
  4. Catenaccio88

    Catenaccio88 Member

    England
    Sep 23, 2023
    The French and Spanish discourse have been well aware that Donnarruma is error prone against aggressive front foot opponents and invites a breakdown of his teams ability to play their way out of pressure. Probably why PSG were happy to sell him.

    IMO it's worse when a keeper makes an unforced error like he did compared to ones you typically see like failing to clear a cross cleanly or letting in 'a savable shot' from distance.

    Trafford is much better suited to Peps philosophy of positional football. Really don't know why they bought both keepers and let Trafford rot on the bench for a season.
     
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  5. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


     
  6. Regis Prograis

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    They'd be stupid not to open talks if if someone offered them £75m, absolutely no chance Bayern will though.
     
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  7. Khadrim

    Khadrim Member

    Jul 30, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    I tend to agree that Rice is a runner. Anderson however can take balls under a press and pass and dictate play very well.

    I was curious about other teams midfield though after your comment though.
    Fifa top 10 and some of these players may be wrong. But they aren't as scary as thought. France in particular is weaker than you would think.

    France: Tchouameni, Rabiot, (Dembele) 2 man pivot really
    Spain: Pedri, Rodri, Merino
    Argentina: McAllister, Enzo Fernandes, De Paul
    Portugal: Vitinha, Bruno Fernandes, Ruben/Joao Neves
    Brazil: Bruno Guimaraes, Casemiro, (Cunha) 2 man pivot really
    Netherlands: De Jong, Gravenberch, Reijnders/Simons
    Morocco: El Aynaoui, El Khannous, Saibari/Ounahi
    Belgium: Onana, De Bruyne, Tielemans
    Germany: Goretzka, Wirtz, Stiller/Pavlovic

    I would say Portugal, Spain and Argentina is a better midfield. Maybe Belgium as well. Though I am not sure Tielemans and De Bruyne has enough legs. I don't particularly rate, Germany, Netherlands and Brazil or France's midfield. Morocco I don't know enough about.
     
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  8. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I don't think Argentina have a better midfield talent wise but their midfield works better
     
  9. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    We don’t really know though for sure, when was the last time we put out a midfield of our strongest three in Anderson, Rice and Bellingham? In fact I can’t remember having seen that midfield three start a game for England or?
     
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  10. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I'd say rogers rice and Anderson worked really well against Serbia
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Newcastle will sell Anthony Gordon, 25, to Bayern Munich if the German champions match their £75m valuation for the England forward. (Times - subscription required) , external

    England midfielder Curtis Jones, 25, is unhappy playing a fringe role at Liverpool and could leave in the summer. (Football Insider)

    England centre-back John Stones, 31, is expected to leave Manchester City in the summer as a free agent. (Fabrizio Romano)

    Manchester United are admirers of Crystal Palace midfielder Adam Wharton but may opt against the signing as the Old Trafford club view him as too similar to Kobbie Mainoo - The Telegraph

    Juventus are among the clubs keeping tabs on James Trafford's situation at Manchester City - Daily Mail
     
  12. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Curtis Jones would do well somewhere like Italy or Spain. I can't think of any English club that he'd go to. Maybe Newcastle as tonali's replacement
     
  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


     
  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Hinshelwood starts for Brighton. Steele, Dunk and Welbeck are on the bench.
    Chalobah and Delap start for Chelsea. Sharman-Lowe, Tosin, Acheampong and Derry are on the bench.

    Palmer has an hamstring issue. Being described as minor but feels like him not being fully fit might see Tuchel leaving him out for someone else.

    Chalobah is nailed on to go now he is back I suspect.
     
  15. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Watching a thing about Collwell coming back from injury. It might be my imagination but he looks a lot skinner than he did before his injury.
     
  16. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Chalobah's in with a chance but considering he's only been capped once by Tuchel, and then immediately got dropped from the squads after that, i'd say he's far from nailed on.
     
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  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Tuchel said last month that Chalobah was above Maguire in his eyes and seemingly saw him as only below Stones, Guehi and Konsa.
     
  18. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    He said that and yet dropped him from all his squads this season, even when he was doing well (he did eventually get called in to the November squad as a replacement). What Tuchel says and what Tuchel does are often different things.
     
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  19. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    You need to stop taking his word as gospel, he's said lots of things that hes gone back on.
     
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  20. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    So, are you telling me there’s still hope, even if it’s just a minuscule of hope that Henderson might not go to the World Cup?
     
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  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I’m theory but unfortunately I think Henderson is his most secure player alongside Kane.
     
  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    If Tuchel seriously thinks that then I’m personally flying back to England and driving Tommy T straight to the nearest mental institution!
     
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  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I don’t mean in terms of starting but his presence in the dressing room is seemingly seen as essential.
     
  24. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I just don’t or can’t believe it’s deemed as so important that Henderson being a good chap in the dressing room makes a World of difference to lets say Anderson, Rice and Bellingham’s performances on the pitch. There is already enough experience in the squad that will go, I just think this Henderson issue is a load of nonsense really, make him part of the backroom squad if he’s good in the dressing room. I just can’t fathom to understand how Tuchel thinks Henderson would be a player who would improve the starting midfielders as a substitute. It’s just self sabotaging the whole team, especially when we have better midfielders than him. If I’m proved wrong then I will happily eat humble pie but playing an already aging Henderson in the conditions in the US is just bonkers imo.
     
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  25. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Hinshelwood scores. ********ing hell Chelsea are shit
     
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