England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I was thinking sven took Walcott for experience, Brazil took Ronaldo to the 94 world cup at 17/18. I don't think we'll use all 26 players
     
  2. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Though Sven taking walcott was a very poor decision given walcott wasn't remotely ready and the squad situation. 3 strikers, 1 of whom was injured and probably should not have gone anyway (rooney), one who had been injured literally all season and only returned end of April (owen) and crouch.

    Had we gone through on penalties against portugal it left us with only Peter crouch left as a striker.
     
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  3. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Out of the AMs and RWs who is even in any type of impressive form? I think it’s entirely possible that Dowman has some more incredible moments as Arsenal go on this run in and it might become a question of how could we possibly leave him out.
     
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  4. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #20129 Marcho Gamgee, Mar 15, 2026
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2026
    Yeah, I’ve been leaning more on the it’s just a bit too early but if he keeps on having a real impact from now until the end of the season, I don’t actually think it’s impossible although if he did go to the World Cup, he’d have to do his GCSE exams on the road.
     
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  5. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Ghana and Panama seem as much weaker in the group. Ghana has Partey who is in his career sunset. Palmer, Bellingham, Rice seem good in the middle? :unsure: They remind on Lampard, Gerrard and Scholes in their prime - Euro 2004.

    Tuchel could bring more tactical maturity and discipline and remove potential club antagonism.
    I remember that Owen and Beckham never had good relationship. Beckham and Simeone clash is something that Owen regrets a lot.

    Arsenal, Liverpool, ManUtd English players didn’t like each other in the past. Chelsea was not their major rival in the past.
     
  6. Catenaccio88

    Catenaccio88 Member

    England
    Sep 23, 2023
    Is Dowman eligible to play in european competition for Arsenal?
     
  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It depends on who Tuchel thinks best suits his system.
     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I am not even convinced Tuchel will take 26. Could see him only taking 24 or something.
     
  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Yes. He has played already and was on the bench midweek.
     
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  10. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Sure but I think Bellingham suits playing rather than starting the current Rogers form if that’s what you’re getting at.
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I was more talking about Gordon v Rashford. But I could see Tuchel preferring Rogers over Bellingham even if current form doesn’t justify Rogers as much as a while back.
     
  12. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Really? I don’t recall you mentioning this before ;)
     
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  13. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Your wrong, but if you want to keep saying this without anything to back it up, have at it.
     
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  14. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Think Tommy has already played Gordon ahead of Rashford on quite a few occasions plus Gordon is in very good form so don’t see him switching to starting Rashford imo, unless he now sees Gordon as a legit backup striker to Kane.
     
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  15. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Apart from Kane none of our are attacking players are in in great form. But as a RW option I'd have Saka, Palmer and Madueke in the squad. If he (Dowman) goes on a run in PL and CL that makes it impossible, than sure. Buts that not the current reality.
     
  16. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Darren bent was the top English scorer that season and didn't go
     
  17. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Yes, he’s already made his CL debut.

    I think ultimately Dowman plays more centrally like he did against Mansfield so he isn’t exclusively a RW option, he could replace Rogers, Eze or Foden depending on who you have in.
     
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  18. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Southgate got rid of all the club rivalry in the squad so it’s not the same dynamic at all anymore. In those days the top English clubs had an English core of 3-5 top players by that’s no longer the case either.
     
  19. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I do as well but that's even less likely than RW in my opinion.
     
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  20. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I dunno, seems kind of easier to sacrifice someone like Rogers, Foden or Eze than Saka or Palmer. Like you say, a lot of water to go under a lot of bridges for him to make a serious case for a place anyway………….can’t help thinking that League Cup final with City’s high line is the perfect place for the next step though!
     
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  21. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Palmer seems underestimated in media. They all comment Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe, Yamal…
    Leading defender is John Stones for sure.
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Dean Henderson absent today but only illness rather than injury.

    The website I normally use has taken away country flags. It’s harder and harder to actually count the country flags of players now
     
  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Where was John Stones yesterday. He wasn’t even on Man City’s bench. Is he really going to be fit enough to potentially start every match at the World Cup?
     
  24. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018

    Just fell asleep watching Man Utd vs Villa.:sleep:
     
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  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Harsh booking on Watkins
     

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