England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I don’t see all 3 of Man United’s players making it. Still not convinced any of them will.
     
  2. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
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    #19677 horrisengleton, Mar 7, 2026
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    Yeah possibly, but even then that strategy only works if you keep the quality consistent. Based on what we've seen and with prior selections, it wouldn't bode well imo

    Whenever we've made subs, and particularly when Henderson has entered the pitch, we've seen a fairly notable dip in team performance quality and a loss of control of the game. Tuchel even noted this himself in the last international break.

    A big problem is that there's nobody else who can come close to offering what Anderson does, unless Jones in the team. Jones is quite different to Anderson but his on-ball quality is the closest thing we have to Anderson. We're not getting that from anyone else.
     
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  3. * no Livramento, which must be an oversight



    Full SkyBet ranking — shortest → longest odds
    1. Marc Guehi — 1/40
    2. Bukayo Saka — 1/33
    3. Harry Kane — 1/33
    4. Declan Rice — 1/33
    5. Jordan Pickford — 1/25
    6. Morgan Rogers — 1/20
    7. Ezri Konsa — 1/14
    8. Jude Bellingham — 1/10
    9. Reece James — 1/9
    10. Elliot Anderson — 1/9
    11. Cole Palmer — 1/9
    12. Dean Henderson — 1/8
    13. John Stones — 1/6
    14. Nico O’Reilly — 1/6
    15. Anthony Gordon — 2/9
    16. Marcus Rashford — 1/4
    17. Phil Foden — 1/3
    18. Jordan Henderson — 1/3
    19. James Trafford — 4/11
    20. Eberechi Eze — 4/11
    21. Ollie Watkins — 4/7
    22. Noni Madueke — 4/7
    23. Dan Burn — 8/13
    24. Adam Wharton — 4/6
    25. Kobbie Mainoo — 4/6
    26. Jarrod Bowen — 4/6
    27. Harry Maguire — 8/11
    28. Djed Spence — 5/6
    29. Lewis Hall — 5/6
    30. Trent Alexander-Arnold — 10/11
    31. Luke Shaw — 11/10
    32. Jarell Quansah — 6/5
    33. Morgan Gibbs-White — 5/4
    34. Nick Pope — 6/4
    35. Myles Lewis-Skelly — 5/2
    36. Dominic Calvert-Lewin — 11/4
    37. Aaron Ramsdale — 11/4
    38. Conor Gallagher — 10/3
    39. James Garner — 10/3
    40. Jarrad Branthwaite — 9/2
    41. Curtis Jones — 5/1
    42. Mason Mount — 5/1
    43. Danny Welbeck — 5/1
    44. Alex Scott — 11/2
    45. Harvey Barnes — 11/2
    46. Dominic Solanke — 11/2
    47. Ruben Loftus-Cheek — 13/2
    48. Rico Lewis — 15/2
    49. Liam Delap — 15/2
    50. Levi Colwill — 9/1
    51. Tyrick Mitchell — 10/1
    52. Ben White — 10/1
    53. Ivan Toney — 10/1
    54. Lewis Miley — 11/1
    55. Max Alleyne — 12/1
    56. Ethan Nwaneri — 14/1
    57. Josh Acheampong — 14/1
    58. Angel Gomes — 16/1
    59. Kyle Walker — 17/1
    60. Sam Johnstone — 20/1
    61. Harvey Elliott — 20/1
    62. Lewis Dunk — 20/1
    63. Lloyd Kelly — 20/1
    64. Tyrone Mings — 20/1
    65. Jamie Bynoe-Gittens — 20/1
    66. Archie Gray — 22/1
    67. James McAtee — 22/1
    68. James Maddison — 25/1
    69. Jacob Ramsey — 33/1
    70. Jack Hinshelwood — 33/1
    71. Jobe Bellingham — 33/1
    72. Emile Smith Rowe — 33/1
    73. Jadon Sancho — 33/1
    74. Tosin Adarabioyo — 33/1
    75. Harrison Armstrong — 40/1
     
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  4. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    They've all got a decent enough chance, if my maths is correct the odds of none of them going is over 11/1, worth a few quid if you are that convinced.
     
  5. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    I think this is as good a prediction of the squad as any i've seen, quite a few 50/50 calls. I wouldn't be surprised if Eze who's been in every Tuchel squad so far remained in over Madueke for example, though wouldn't be surprised if Madueke is in either.

    I don't get the feeling Tuchel has ever been overly keen on Watkins either given he's been dropped when fit twice to look at other options, and has been in much worse form this season. Though even with that i'd be surprised if he didn't get replaced with another striker.
     
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  6. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Madueke scores
     
  7. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    Eze banger.
     
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  8. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Great centre forward play from Delap for the 1-1 OG.
     
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  9. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    O'reilly back in the team
     
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021

    Tuchel at St James Park tonight.
     
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  11. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Barnes scores
     
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  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I wouldn’t be shocked if Barnes does get called up.
     
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  13. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Lewis hall is such a complete fullback
     
  14. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Stones is so slow nowadays, not surprising given his body is basically breaking down with constant injuries but certainly wouldn't give me much confidence against anyone pacey in the world cup.

    We looked so much better under Tuchel with a dynamic, athletic back 4 than we did trying to shoehorn and have to work around the limitations of a cumbersome centre back in the side.
     
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  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Starting him would be a risk but Tuchel really rates him. But Guehi and Konsa is increasingly the better option
     
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  16. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    Stones just played the pass of the season.
     
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  17. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    What a pass from stones
     
  18. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Just can't see howe being at Newcastle next season. It's been totally underwhelming
     
  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Howe's decision to put burn on up against savinho is mind boggling. Hall had the measure of him mostly. To put a big lumbering defender against a pace merchant makes no sense
     
  20. GermanBlade

    GermanBlade Member

    Sheffield United
    Mar 17, 2025
    I feel like the are exhausted to a degree. Howe doesn´t rest his key players enough over the course of a season imo.
     
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  21. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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  22. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    #19697 MrSnrub, Mar 7, 2026
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2026
    They ran into the same issue last time they were in the champions league.

    Although I think this season their horrendous transfer business has really done them in. Losing Isak was always going to be extremely difficult to get in someone who'd do as well as he did for them, but over £200m spent bringing in Woltemade, Elanga, Wissa, and Ramsey was eyebrow raising at the time and has only looked worse and worse as the season has gone on.
     
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  23. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Woltermade and Elanga were desperation signings imo
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Secures him starting every match then at the World Cup. .
     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Maybe Tuchel will finally realise Burn should not go.
     
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