England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Assist for Curtis Jones,

    Not sure he is certain to be selected. Should at least be ahead of Jordan Henderson but all the media think his place is already penciled in.

     
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  2. sharmichael

    sharmichael Member

    England
    Jun 13, 2023
    I'd say he's in the group below Rice and Anderson, who are certainties if fit. From what we know of Tuchel's plans, Henderson is probably the third most likely to go, although he has lost his place in the Brentford team.
     
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  3. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It seems like he's not even fit enough to sprint. It's been like this every game since he came back from that 6 week rest period.
     
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  4. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Was it a throw away line in an opinion piece? Who was the journalist?
    What makes you believe the rumour is true?
     
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  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    He’s just scored from the spot but he’s nowhere near right imo. Surely Chelsea needs a fit and purring Palmer, not a half cooked one. They need to get him sorted out one way or another mainly just for them even though for us it’s obviously a bonus.
     
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  6. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    He's livened up a lot since moving to the right, his best position in my opinion. He gets marked out of the game in the #10 and offers too little off the ball.
     
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  7. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It's probably the worst performance I've seen from him. His movements are so lethargic and there's no intensity to anything he does. The injury he has makes explosive actions much more difficult and that's a huge part of his game.

    Whatever choices are being made about this injury, I hope they're being made in the best interests of his long-term health. This injury has prematurely washed its fair share of players before. Always remember how badly it ruined Kaka.
     
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  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #18308 Fireburn47, Jan 17, 2026
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2026
    Ian Ladyman said it. He reported an unknown person putting it to Tuchel that said player should be recalled and Tuchel replying never.
     
  9. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I’m trying to decipher what you’ve written, why wouldn’t they just name the player? Almost like it’s complete BS, but if you choose to believe it fair enough.
     
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    3 English starters for Nottingham Forest (Anderson, Hudson-Odoi and Gibbs-White) + 3 on the bench
    3 English starters for Arsenal (White, Rice and Madueke) + 3 on the bench ( Including Saka)
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Kane scores.
     
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  12. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    This is the source:

    Tuchel can be rigid but is unapologetic about it. There is one senior and respected player, for example, that he steadfastly refuses to select because he ‘will expect to play every game’. When it was put to him that people can change, he replied: ‘Not in this instance. I don’t want him with us’.​

    (un-paywalled link)

    It's a strange passage. If it were true, that would suggest that Tuchel discussed the player with a journalist somewhat off the record, they concluded that they couldn't report which player it was without betraying his confidence, but they felt that he'd be fine with them reporting that he'd said it about someone. That doesn't make a lot of sense of me, so my basic assumption is that there isn't any truth to it, but it would admittedly be an unusually specific thing to make up completely.

    Regardless, I don't see why it would have to be one of those three players even if it was true. I'm also not sure why it matters.
     
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  13. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    The thing with these journalists is that they know they can get away with reporting these ambiguous lines, because no one can prove it true or not, Tuchel said X about an unnamed player! They know they can write this shit because they can’t be called out in it.

    The insinuation (which was purely guesswork) was it was about Maguire, but that seems pretty unlikely to me, because Maguire stayed at Man United knowing he wasn’t first choice, he doesn’t seem like the type that would demand starting for England at this stage of his career.
     
  14. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Yeah I agree with that either way. It could be anyone or no-one, but I don't see why Maguire would be more likely than, say, Alexander-Arnold or whoever.
     
  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Could be Trent who it is meant to be about but is he senior? Made me think they want us to think it is someone 30+ like Maguire, Shaw or Walker.
     
  16. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    13 goals in 7 matches, the quality of attacking players in the league is at an all time low. Absolutely disgusting state of affairs.

    The worst part of it is that it’s not as if it’s even due to the defenders being great.
     
  17. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Like you I don't believe this is true for a second, but were it true the only player it would make sense about would be Ben White imo.
     
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  18. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Imagine if Man Utd go on a run now and Shaw,Maguire and Mainoo get in the world cup squad.. That would be some comeback.
     
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  19. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    This is the kind of ridiculous speculation fireburn gets told off for
     
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  20. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Brilliant satire
     
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  21. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    They are 5th in the league.;) But seriously I bet at least 1 of them goes.
     
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  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Apparently Foden has a suspected broken hand. He fell on it during the first half, not sure when but might be a reason he was quiet yesterday.
     
  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Pep has denied that. Could just be the media struggling to understand why he was subbed at half time,
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    England winger Jadon Sancho, who is on loan at Aston Villa, could be set to return to Borussia Dortmund for a third time with the German club wanting to sign the 25-year-old on a free when his contract at Manchester United expires at the end of the season. (Fichajes - in Spanish), external
     
  25. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
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