England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Our depth all over the park is so strong now bar left back
     
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  2. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
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  3. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
     
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  4. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    I'm genuinely very interested to see what Carsley does with Foden when he's back fit again. How he uses him, how long he persists with him if he doesn't perform.
     
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  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Logically Foden should suit this system. It’s closer to what he is used to at Man City and also what Copper used at u-17 level.
     
  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021

     
  7. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Finland actually did very well to keep the xG that low. Thought they were very resolute defensively.

     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    BBC player ratings.

    1, Kane - 8.08
    2, Gordon - 8.01
    3, Alexander - Arnold - 7,59
    4, Grealish - 7.32
    5, Gomes - 7,19
    6, Lewis - 6”70
    7, Stones - 6.67
    8, Rice - 6,54
    9, Konsa - 6,52
    10, Saka - 6,46
    11, Bowen - 6.12
    12, Guehi - 6,11
    13, Pickford - 6.07
    14, Madueke - 6.00
    15, Colwill - 5,88
    16, Eze - 5.81
     
  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    Problem with calling up him is he is not starting for Liverpool. We don’t need to go to back to having sevreal players who really need to focus on their club game getting senior call ups.
     
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I’d be surprised if one day when he retires from football, you would think he would regret his decision. I mean passing on the opportunity to play for your Country is something most of us can’t comprehend.
     
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  12. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
    Poole
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Gomes is the big plus.

    Watching the game and I remarked he’s better on the ball and he’s better in close quarters than rice. With downsides, but I don’t think those downsides matter much.
     
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  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It be interesting to see if Rice drops out for Bellingham or if Grealish does. Assuming Bellingham is seen as a starter for Carsley.

    Throigh there is a fair bit of difference between Rice and Bellingham as players
     
  14. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Rice won't drop out
     
  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    He might to fit Bellingham and Grealish both in.
     
  16. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    I mean I expect an improvement in his performances, the question is whether or not he can outperform the players he's competing for a place in the lineup with.

    Couldn't be less bothered about White. Good player but not a unique talent. If Reece James ever gets his injuries under control then White wouldn't even get in the squad if he wanted to be there.
     
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  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #1742 Fireburn47, Sep 10, 2024
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2024
    There must be a fair chance Foden can he seems well suited to ‘Carsball’

    But equally there is fair chance he gets left out of the squad entirely. That would be unprecedented if his level at Man City remains close to last season.
     
  18. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    I’ve never really understood the White situation and his adamance on never being in an England team again. Was his beef with Southgate or with other players? Or was something else at play?
     
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  19. LorneMarvello

    LorneMarvello Member+

    Jul 1, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Always great to beat the Reindeer Shaggers

    Am I right
     
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  20. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    yeah graelish can play left wing in a diff role, the problem is Saka and graelish won’t work in combo with Kane as they both cut in
     
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  21. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I would've preferred Foden over Grealish in the game last night. With Gomes, Lewis and Grealish in there we tended to fall into keep ball for the sake of it. Foden at least offers more penetration and risk.
     
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  22. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    I can see that when looking at the other squad options last night but when Palmer and Bellingham are there it looks harder to fit him in imo.
     
  23. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah, you should see what they did Father Christmas……
     
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  24. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    True, Palmer would've been better than Foden last night.

    I think with Carsley were going to see perhaps a lot more rotation and experimentation, especially compared to Southgate. I think one of Southgate's biggest failings was that he was so conservative in his selections. He had his comfort blankets like Kyle Walker and Foden latterly which really hindered any experimentation. The best he could come up with was Trent in midfield which was some real low IQ stuff.
     
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  25. KHSAFC

    KHSAFC Member

    Sunderland
    England
    Feb 12, 2023
    I really hope Carsley gets the permanent job. The fact that he’s brought Gomes straight into the squad has impressed me.
     

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