England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
    Poole
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Doesn’t go.
     
  2. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    The team just clicks with Anderson playing.
     
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  3. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The sample size is miles too small to say that with any confidence imo. Rogers hasn't even had a standout performance for England yet. Even amidst good team performances he's very rarely been better than decent.

    Bellingham and Saka both have a long history of performing with England and scoring clutch goals in international tournaments. There's immense value in that and it's not something you easily swap out for players of the calibre of Rogers and Madueke. There's a high likelihood that both of them start next summer.
     
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  4. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Depends on how well he plays when he comes back.
     
  5. andals

    andals Member

    Jun 13, 2015
    thought Foden did really well coming on.

    biggest question i have is...where is Palmer going to fit in, if at all?
     
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  6. RobTheFool

    RobTheFool Member+

    Apr 19, 2008
    London, England
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Palmer goes if fit, no way he doesn't go with his big game prowess and ability to affect games. Probably doesn't start but a great option to have.
     
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  7. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I thought rogers was superb away to Serbia
     
  8. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Bellingham is playing catchup at the moment because of this shoulder injury at the start of the season. If he gets back to his best for the world cup he'll probably start. But needs to be at his best. The no10 spot is a proper game of thrones position along with the leftback spot.
     
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  9. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    O'Reilly was impressive again. Looked solid at the back and some excellent touches going forward
     
  10. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That was his personal standout performance but I don't think it was a standout performance in general barring a couple of very good moments. His performances haven't progressed since then either.
     
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  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Not a great performance. Kane surely player of the match jsut because he actually scored.

    Nearly as bad as Kane doing them at Euro 2016.

    Wharton’s playing style is something I think a lot of fans could turn on if things go tough. He looks like he doesn’t really care (I know he does but just looks so laidback)

    I wish it was the end for him but he seems an imoviable rock in this squad.

    Could be player of the tournament if we go deep in the Worl
    The way he is going he might get to 100 goals before he retires.
    Unfortunately I’m 90% sure it’s Maguire who is the player he has decided he will never recall.
    I’m skeptical of Bellingham being at the World Cuo if he not a starter. Just don’t have good feeling about how he might react to that.
    The problem for Madueke is he might not be starting for Arsenal that much. Same issue could be occurring soon with Gordon and Newcastle as well. We know Tuchel seems to care about x
    Will be a test of just how nasty the press might be about that.
    He is also not at his best for Aston Villa either at the moment. Been getting better the last couple of matches through.
     
  12. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    If everyones fit I probably play Livramento at leftback. But there are so many leftback options that its anyones guess.
     
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  13. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Agree with everything apart from the Bellingham bit
     
  14. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021

    Bowen, Bellingham. Henderson and Kane nominated for player of the Match.
     
  16. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Until the bomb squad came on it wasn’t great to be honest but we really were our own worst enemies by making some terrible decisions, Stones back pass that nearly cost us a goal was one obvious one, Kane did an awful pass across the pitch in the first half that Albania had a decent chance with, Burn with another one. Was just littered with individual errors which isn’t really like us but sometimes you have games like this but it all changed once Anderson and Foden came on who really took charge of the game imo and you could see the difference, was night and day. I’m definitely not writing off players who found it hard tonight and especially Wharton who played his game for a long time, he needs time to adapt and I’m sure he will.
     
  17. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Bowen lol. It has to be kane
     
  18. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I'm not writing Wharton off either but he needs to be more proactive in games. He needs to leave Palace if he's to become the player he can be because there's no doubt he's supremely gifted
     
  19. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I don’t think anybody has been particularly amazing in the 10 role. Bellingham will end up taking the starting role because of his style, athleticism and adaptability in the role. Seems obvious.

    Rice, Anderson, Bellingham, Gordon and Saka is just extremely formidable as a pressing force.
     
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  20. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Yet we look so much more fluid with him playing the number 10 role. Jude has all the talent in the world, but it genuinely wouldn't surprise if Tuchel is giving serious consideration to starting with Morgan.
     
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  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I think Wharton will miss out on the World Cup.
     
  22. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Really odd game. For 60 mins shockly bad. Then basically sub on the first team and play the normal system we score 2 goals in 30 mins. Tuchel needs keep the system and hope Anderson stays fit. Its looking like Anderson is our verison of Rodri.
     
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  23. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Do we look more fluid specifically because Rogers is on the pitch instead of Bellingham, or is it because when Rogers has been starting, so have the likes of Elliot Anderson, Reece James, Marc Guehi, Bukayo Saka and Anthony Gordon?
     
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  24. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Not sure why Quansah played the whole game as essentially as a RB, what do we gain, never realistically going to play there again.
     
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  25. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Im not sure he will, he’s the obvious back up to Anderson if he was to get injured but I guess you could shuffle around the midfield a bit but Henderson is the one who should miss out and can’t be relying on him come the World Cup.
     
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