England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    In terms of who's actually on the bench we probably need quite a few changes. We've got Stones receiving the ball in small spaces high up the pitch. Don't really know what the point is.
     
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  2. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Wtf is Wharton taking the corners for?
     
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  3. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    This ref is awful
     
  4. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Not enough movement, especially in midfield. Everyone seems content to take up positions that put them under pressure the moment they receive the ball.
     
  5. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Stones is not a midfielder why play him there. This is really weird
     
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  6. Fullerov

    Fullerov Member

    Bristol Rovers
    Nov 30, 2004
    Club:
    Bristol Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Almost every half chance falling to Rice.
     
  7. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Wharton has been poor
     
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  8. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Rice playing CF and Kane in midfield. This is getting stlly now.
     
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  9. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm sceptical you can play Rice in an attacking role with Bellingham as the 10. The central attacking areas are absolutely clogged with players who aren't specialists in small spaces. Rice, Jude, Kane and even Stones at times. There's not a world where that won't just look clunky and awkward.
     
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  10. Khadrim

    Khadrim Member

    Jul 30, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Why play a tempo player like Wharton, then have Burn be the tempo maker.
     
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  11. Fullerov

    Fullerov Member

    Bristol Rovers
    Nov 30, 2004
    Club:
    Bristol Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Bit of an odd half. Eze pretty absent from game. Bellingham doing some good running but erratic with the ball.

    I guess you learn more when something is going wrong so interesting half to come.
     
  12. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
    Poole
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Thought Rice, Stones and Bowen were shite in that first half.

    Quansah at right back is hilarious. Neither wing back is offering much going forward.

    It’s all muddled thinking.

    What I would say conclusively is Burn and Bowen are good club players nothing more. They are not and never will be international standard players.
     
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  13. Khadrim

    Khadrim Member

    Jul 30, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Mainly because Burn is too scared to pass to him. Passing has been quicker when Wharton has the ball, but he hasn't been on the ball enough.
     
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  14. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Rashford saka on for bowen and eze. Both been invisible. Bowen just isn't international quality. I think I can say Anderson looks a better player than Wharton for England. Bellingham has been underwhelming.
     
  15. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
    Poole
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Burn is an honest pro, but Maguire would be a huge upgrade on him.
     
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  16. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I get kittens when burn is In possession. Watch tuchel bring Henderson on at half time
     
  17. Fullerov

    Fullerov Member

    Bristol Rovers
    Nov 30, 2004
    Club:
    Bristol Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Fwiw, I thought Bowen was one of the better players on the pitch and was trying to make things happen and always looking for the ball.
     
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  18. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Poor half but whenever you make widescale changes like this, especially to fit players in rather than the system it's always likely to be underwhelming.

    Not overly concerning in that it seems as much to give people caps for squad management but you would hope the last we see of anything like this again.
     
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  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    He tries but it never comes off
     
  20. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    This is getting really boring. Bowen was actually not worse than almost all of them. And definitely has been better than Rashford against Serbia.
     
  21. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Wharton is playing like he does for Palace whilst in a totally different game dynamic. Not really involved a lot and just looking for scraps to fire on to the forwards. I think Anderson is much the superior player.
     
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  22. andals

    andals Member

    Jun 13, 2015
    - need to give Albania credit for being a brick wall.
    - need to get Wharton on the ball more, but give him the space to do so.
    - tempo far too slow from side-to-side and in the middle
    - fullbacks make me nervous.
     
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  23. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Tuchel trying total football. So we'll be seeing Burn in midfield and Bowen as goalkeeper. This reminds of the Greece game with Carlsey.
     
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  24. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    City won a treble doing it.
     
  25. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    I can't really understand these get X on for Y type comments: the problem is not with individuals, but the system. Also Albania is much more motivated.
     
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