England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
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  2. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  3. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Rodri will win it. So it's academic
     
  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I’m not entirely sure. Vinicius Jr is the favourite.
     
  5. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Based on what? He's overrated
     
  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    Considering the discussions on here I’m not sure how popular that style will be.
     
  7. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I guess it depends on how it’s implemented, I mean dominating games and creating chances, I doubt anyone would be disappointed but dominating games and playing sideways football without creating much might lead to discontent.
     
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  8. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    When Rico Lewis says that I think he means just playing good football. Carsley is a fair bit different to Pep, at least he was when managing the U21s.
     
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  9. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    I mean we've sent the style Carsley aspires too for the under 21s so that's not an issue. The issue will be it's one thing managing to get the under 21s doing it, another for the seniors. Though I would say that southgates football at the under 21s translated pretty much exactly to the senior side, for better and for worse.

    Regardless I'm not sure I've seen serious posts on here that guardiola's style would not be popular, rather some skepticism that something so famously detailed, intricate and controlled simply isn't repeatable at international level, especially in a team like england drawn from so many different clubs.
     
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  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I mean the debate about if the PL has become too boring because his style is becoming dominant across the league and particularly in youth football rather than how it would work for the seniors or if it’s boring in the short term.
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    I feel he will be disappointed.

    Istanbul Basaksehir are one of four Turkish clubs who have made Newcastle a loan offer with an option to buy for 33-year-old ex-England defender Kieran Trippier. (Sky Sports)

    Newcastle ended their pursuit of Crystal Palace's 24-year-old England defender Marc Guehi to show the club would not be taken advantage of during transfer windows. (Telegraph - subscription required)




    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c5y8011gp75o

    New era for England - who has a point to prove?


     
  12. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    If somebody actually got England playing like a Guardiola team then not a soul would be complaining because his sides are relentless and unstoppable. What bores people is the teams that pass the ball around with no urgency for 90 minutes, and there's absolutely nothing in Carsley's record to suggest that he'd ever be aiming for that.
     
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  13. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    We need to play direct attacking English style football. When England or English teams play like that no one can live with us
     
  14. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Carsley’s start with the U21’s was nothing like the tournament type display. The early games were quite compact displays with the likes of Gallagher and Skipp starting together.
     
  15. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Given that Carsley will only have a couple of training sessions with this squad, it'll be fascinating to see if he has an immediate, noticeable effect on the way we play. If he does then we'll no doubt get the naysayers telling us it was only Ireland and Greece, but England have put in some dire performances against a whole host of smaller teams over the last two years (Malta, Australia, Iceland etc). It might be wishful thinking, but I'll just be happy to see signs of him getting our midfield functioning again, so we can play on the front foot and start to create a heck of a lot more than we did under Southgate.
     
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  16. Jenks

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    Feb 16, 2013
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    It's Ireland and Finland that we're playing during this break.
     
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  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    There will be a lot of naysayers who only want Pep or Klopp as manager and will never be happy with Carsley.
     
  18. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    What's your score predictions. I'm going 3 nil England
     
  19. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
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    We usually don't do well over there. I could see us dominating the ball but only getting a draw.
     
  20. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    That would be pretty disappointing.
     
  21. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  22. Gaz811

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    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    #1322 Gaz811, Sep 5, 2024 at 8:28 AM
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    Famous last words but I think we'll smash them to pieces.
     
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  23. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    People who would only accept Margot Robbie as their wife will never be happy with their options either
     
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  24. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I think she's bang average
     
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  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #1325 Fireburn47, Sep 5, 2024 at 9:50 AM
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    Chukwuemeka is included. Chilwell and Vale are not with Chelsea still hoping to sell them to Turkish clubs.

    I wonder how many games Palmer will play for England this season? How many times will he withdraw.


    The club World Cup is going to be a mess for our June matches. Let’s hope they not tough ones.
     

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