England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Good for Jurgen but that’s going to upset the hordes…
     
  2. Catenaccio88

    Catenaccio88 Member

    Cavalry FC
    England
    Sep 23, 2023
    Can Leverkusen afford Sancho's salary? I think he would suit playing in Italy or even going back to Dortmund on loan
     
  3. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    I'd argue he's been our best keeper since the early 80s, when Shilton was in his prime.
     
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  4. Catenaccio88

    Catenaccio88 Member

    Cavalry FC
    England
    Sep 23, 2023
    I'm not old enough to remember Shilton (I was too young during Italia 90), but Pickfords definitely been the best English GK in my lifetime
     
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  5. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Definitely one of those players that has been at his best at international level.
     
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  6. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    He was well past his best in 1990. Elite positioning and reading of the game, but just didn't have the reflexes. Late 70s and early 80s he was as good as there's ever been.
     
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  7. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Also down to the club they play for. Seaman played for Arsenal behind one of the all time great defences. Would he have looked as good in a generally struggling Everton team?
     
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  8. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    I actually had the "pleasure" of meeting Peter Shilton in the late 90s. Quite possibly the most boring human being I've ever talked to. Even managed to make stories about Cloughie dull.
     
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  9. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Goalkeepers seem to be really dull or hyper lunatics. Not much of an in-between.
     
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  10. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Seaman's England career will always be tainted by the shambolic free-kick goals he conceded in crucial WC games, against Ronald Koeman (1993) and Ronaldinho (2002). From what l can recall, Pickford doesn't have any such high profile blunders to his name.
     
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  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    He’s seems to have done very well in the romance department so he must have something good going for him other than his obvious good looks :ninja:
     
  12. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    For the most part (thinking of John Burridge in particular for the latter), but Jimmy Montgomery is one of the nicest and most genuine ex-players I've met, and a good laugh as well.
     
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  13. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Not for England but he also let in that goal against Zaragoza in the European Cup winners Cup final ( I think it was ). Always seemed like he had lead in his boots and couldn’t jump. I guess you could say he wasn’t particularly athletic.
     
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  14. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    And it can't be the money, as he's gambled away a fortune.

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  15. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    That tweet always gets me…..:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  16. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    I had a similar encounter with him too! :) He was the guest of honour at this football tournament l was playing in. Tried to engage him in some football talk and he was as miserable as sin.
     
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  17. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Good to know it's not just me.
     
  18. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
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    Sorry. Can't let a John Burridge reference go by without sharing this classic footage of his pre-match warm-up. Mad as a box of frogs.
     
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  19. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    That music gave me a migraine
     
  20. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    I've seen it first hand. He's an absolute legend. Saw him described as "a lunatic who wandered the length and breadth of the UK".
    For a while, he used to sleep in his full kit, shinpads and boots included, the night before a match. John Terry would be proud.
    He was a more than useful keeper though.
     
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  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    English Nominees for PL fan team of the season
    Goalkeeper
    Jordan Pickford, Dean Henderson, Aaron Ramsdale

    Left back
    No English eligible nominee

    Centre back
    Dan Burn, Marc Guehi, James Tarkowski

    Right back
    Trent Alexander-Arnold, (Aaron Wan-Bissaka), Djed Spence

    Midfielder
    Declan Rice, Morgan Gibbs-White, Morgan Rogers

    Forwards
    Bukayo Saka, Cole Palmer, Anthony Gordon, Jacob Murphy, Jarrod Bowen

    Strikers
    Ollie Watkins, Liam Delap, Danny Welbeck.
     
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  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Cooper, Robinson, Burrows, Peck, Campbell and Brewster start for Sheffield United. Holding, Brooks, McCallum, Seriki, Davies and O’Hare are on the bench.

    Patterson, Cirkin, O’Nien, Neil, Bellingham, Rigg and Mundle start for Sunderland. Jones, Moore, Roberts and Watson are on the bench,
     
  23. Catenaccio88

    Catenaccio88 Member

    Cavalry FC
    England
    Sep 23, 2023

    Looking back Seaman was too old for England at that 2002 WC.
    He was only picked, because we just didn't have anyone else to compete with him, so Sven favored an over the hill Seaman, over David James/Nigel Martyn or whoever else was playing in the Prem at the time.

    If Pickford gets to 41 and still starting for the national team at a WC (because there's nobody else), how should we judge him harshly for making a mistake.
     
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  24. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Henderson to Sunderland seems like the most inevitable transfer ever.
     
  25. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    To be fair he was still the number one for Arsenal who'd won the league that season (and remained their number one the season after too). He was 38 in the world cup which isn't too unusual to see keepers that age still playing at high levels.

    England's bigger problem that game was despite Ronaldinho getting sent off and Brazil having to play over 30 minutes with 10 men we couldn't even lay a glove on them, a really weak surrender of a performance.
     
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