England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    He had just played a full game on a plastic pitch. Seemed odd to me to start him from the start again in this game after the season he has had.
     
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  2. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Real Madrid are looking to agree a deal with Liverpool worth about £1m for 26-year-old England full-back Trent Alexander-Arnold to join them before the Club World Cup. (Football Insider)

    Arne Slot said the home fans were" allowed to have their opinion" after Trent Alexander-Arnold copped boos from sections of the Liverpool crowd. (Daily Mirror)
     
  3. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  4. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Ajax with Jordan Henderson are heading towards throwing away the league title. Still I expect to see him involved in the upcoming matches,
     
  5. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Tino Livramento, among options under consideration at Manchester City for right back position.
    There’s a four-men shortlist for that position with City set to decide ahead of Club World Cup.
    Kyle Walker will 100% leave the club, even if AC Milan won’t buy him. (Fabrizio Romano)

    Eric Dier on the possibility of a return to the national team under Thomas Tuchel: "I hope so. I think I’m playing my best football"

    Real Madrid have not yet made Liverpool a formal offer to sign England right-back Trent Alexander-Arnold early, a week after asking the Premier League club if the 26-year-old could play for them in next month's Club World Cup. (Sky Sports)

    Liverpool could look to replace Alexander-Arnold with Bayer Leverkusen and Netherlands right-back Jeremie Frimpong, 24, who has a £29.4m-33.6m (35-40m euros) release clause. (Sky Germany - in German), external

    Livramento to Man City would be a big move - will it work through.

    If Dier returns then who misses out. Quansah would be by the far the most logical but it could be Konsa or even Guehi.

    Looks like Liverpool are going to use Frimpong and others to fill their homegrown quota without needing many English players. Jones is the only one they have not leaving or linked to be leaving.
     
  6. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I can’t see Dier taking the places of Konsa or Guehi to be honest and I highly doubt he will be recalled anyway unless we have injuries.
     
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  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  8. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    It's a good observation about Frimpong qualifying as homegrown. We're all kind of bracing ourselves, as England supporters, for Slot to do what all Dutch managers do and start buying Dutch. But it'll sting all the more, if those same players also take up places that should rightly be earmarked for the ongoing development of English lads. Not at the big clubs.
     
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  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #9684 Fireburn47, May 13, 2025
    Last edited: May 13, 2025
    The rules need changing but the FA doesn’t want to rock the boat and take on the PL. I suspect any chances will have to wait till a big senior team failure.

    Of course considering Frimpong’s lack of Dutch fluency they will not be able to speak Dutch between each other unlike other Dutch players and their Dutch managers.
     
  10. Gaz811

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    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    I don't see Livramento going to Man City. Why would Newcastle sell him?
     
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  11. Regis Prograis

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    So you think a player who comes through a PL or Football League academy shouldn't count as homegrown if they aren't English?
     
  12. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Not related to Frimpong, as he's clearly a UK developed player having moved here at 7 and joined Man City aged 9, but I do think there's something that could be done to tweak the rules a bit, as you can get players who haven't been involved in the academy system who can qualify.
    Currently the rules are play for three years between the ages of 15 and 21. You could sign on your 18th birthday as a first team player, and become "homegrown".
     
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  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Saliba is an example of this. But we know any attempt to change things will see the entire PL do eveything they can to block it and the FA never seem keen on taking them on like this.
     
  14. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I don’t have much of an issue tweaking that rule to lower the age to 20, to prevent that issue. But it sounded like @Fireburn47 wants to change the rules to stop players like Frimpong counting as homegrown?
     
  15. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I would not mind if it was like Rugby’s rule that is only England eligible players count and those who switch away lose their eligibility,
     
  16. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    Well that ain't happening in football, for many reasons, most notably because pretty much no one wants it to. But being England-qualified in rugby is more nebulous (you don't even need a passport) than pretty much any other sport, isn't it?
     
  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Does anyone know the reason behind the why the homegrown rule was introduced? Was it to try and protect the England National team? I always thought that was the intention but I could be wrong.
     
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  18. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    It was a UEFA thing at first, about 20 years ago. Squads had a maximum of 25 players, with 8 "homegrown" of which 4 had to be trained at the club.
     
  19. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yeah just had a look and it’s nothing really to do with Nationality rather just to bring more domestic players through who like you said trained by the Club.
     
  20. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Cricket as well doesn’t require a passport. (Very few of the UAE’s team have its passport).
     
  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Bayer Leverkusen are ready to make a move for Jadon Sancho if Chelsea don't want to sign him permanently.

    (Source: @TheSunFootball)
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Manchester United keeping eye on Callum Hudson-Odoi’s situation at Nottingham Forest. Talks over a new Forest contract are ongoing. Current deal up next summer. (Dharmesh Sheth-Sky Sports)
     
  23. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  24. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Real Madrid are close to announcing the signing of 26-year-old English right-back Trent Alexander-Arnold from Liverpool, who are demanding a compensation fee of £840,000 in order for him to play in the Club World Cup. (ESPN), external

    Liverpool are ready to play hardball with Real Madrid over Trent Alexander-Arnold. (The Sun)

    Brighton are in talks with veteran English midfielder James Milner, 39, over a new deal with the club. (Athletic - subscription required), external

    Chelsea's Champions League push is starting to cause anxiety for some of their academy graduates. (The Sun)
     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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    Henry Winter assuming on X/Twitter that Tuchel will go next year and Ashworth will be involved in searching for his successor.
     

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