England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Forster should retire after that. He was standing up when the ball was still 4 yards from crossing the line

 

He's ridiculous

 

Jude Bellingham makes the six-strong shortlist for BBC Sports Personality of the Year award. Kind of spoils his bizarre narrative of being made the scapegoat for England's flat performances and the beacon for unprecedented press criticism and fan hatred. Thats right, Kane, Foden, Trippier and Rice never got a mention eh, Jude?

 

And he will probably come in the top 3 with Luke Littler and Keely Hodgkinson (One of the later two will win I think - bookies say Hodgkinson but feeling says Littler.)

 

Surely Hodgkinson, darts is just a pub game.

 

Littler is a sensation and a tremendous athlete to boot.

 

That said, the ironic thing about Littler's inclusion is that Luke Humphreys is the number 1 darts player at the moment and has been fairly dominant this year but no cares.

 

Humpreys is the outstanding player in darts at the moment, but the BBC award has always been as much a popularity contests as for achievement. I doubt most general sports fans could pick Humphrey's out of a crowd, and a good chunk won't even know his name. But most will have heard of Littler and recognise him.

 

Liverpool are looking to tie England right-back Trent Alexander-Arnold, 26 to a new deal. (Star), external

Everton will cash in on Dominic Calvert-Lewin next month if the right offer comes in - and £20m could get him, with Everton determined not to lose the striker for nothing (The Sun)

Man City were planning to send Argentine ace Claudio Echeverri on loan to Spanish sister club Girona when he finally arrives from River Plate in January. But the fitness problems faced by Kevin De Bruyne, Phil Foden and Jack Grealish this season have promoted the Premier League champions into a rethink. (Daily Mirror)

 

Everyone to their own but I've really never understood the darts thing. I think sports that don't display levels of athleticism that are beyond what the average person is capable of (as well as skill) are usually a far worse spectacle.

Given we're a country with a growing obesity crisis it'd also be a lot more helpful if people preferred a more physically rigorous sport but it is what it is.

 

You are probably right but I think Luke Littler will probably win because he's put Darts on the map more. But I think Hodgkinson should win. In fact I think she should be a much bigger star than she is.If she was around between 90s to 2012 she would be a household name. For some reason athletics popularly has been going down for years.

 

BBC Sports Personality is a nothing award really, but I'm not a fan of darts players being grouped in with other athletes for any sort of award. Athletes of proper sports endure a tonne of suffering and physical sacrifice to get to the top of their sport in a way darts players just don't. They don't even have to give up their favourite foods.

I'm also not massively shocked at athletics popularity declining. They're not the sorts of sports that have enough entertainment factor to be popular with the masses all year rounds so they need those transcend figures to carry their popularity, people like Bolt. It seems like the sort of thing that's destined to perpetually yo-yo in popularity.

 

Are you suggesting that this wasn't an athlete in his physical prime?

 

Plus Athletics has had a lot of high profile doping issues.

 

What a specimen, puts Max Whitlock to shame.

 

Included in the @FIFPRO Men's #World11.

Nice work, @BellinghamJude! 💪 pic.twitter.com/BiYDW5ebye

— England (@England) December 9, 2024

Bellingham made the FIFA Pro 11 and was the most voted player of the 11.

Full List

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2024 FIFPRO MEN’S WORLD 11
Goalkeeper
Ederson (Manchester City, Brazil)

Defenders
Dani Carvajal (Real Madrid, Spain)
Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool, Netherlands)
Antonio Rudiger (Real Madrid, Germany)

Midfielders
Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid, England)
Kevin De Bruyne (Manchester City, Belgium)
Toni Kroos (Real Madrid, Germany)
Rodri (Manchester City, Spain)

Forwards
Erling Haaland (Manchester City, Norway)
Kylian Mbappe (Paris Saint-Germain/Real Madrid, France)
Vinicius Jr (Real Madrid, Brazil)

 

I'd love to see him past his best!

 

Kilman, Wan-Bissaka and Bowen start for West Ham. Cresswell and Ings are on the bench.
Johnstone starts for Wolves. Bentley, Dawson and Doyle are on the bench.

 

Pl Week 15

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PL - Week 15

PL English Players of the Match - Week 15
Bukayo Saka - Fulham v Arsenal
Jamie Vardy - Leicester v Brighton
Cole Palmer - Spurs v Chelsea
Jarrod Bowen - West Ham v Wolves

Pl English players of their Club - Week 15
Kyle Walker-Peters - Southampton
Will Hughes - Crystal Palace
Bukayo Saka - Arsenal
Jamie Vardy - Leicester
Cole Palmer - Chelsea
Jarrod Bowen - West Ham

BBC Sport English players of the Match - Week 15
Will Hughes - Crystal Palace v Manchester City
Jamie Vardy - Leicester v Brighton
Cole Palmer - Spurs v Chelsea
Jarrod Bowen - West Ham v Wolves

BBC Sport English players of their Club - Week 15
Tyler Dibling - Southampton
Will Hughes - Crystal Palace
Jamie Vardy - Leicester
Dominic Solanke - Spurs
Cole Palmer - Chelsea
Jarrod Bowen - West Ham

Second and third places

Pl - Ezri Konsa, Tyler Dibling, Jacob Murphy, Harvey Barnes, Morgan Gibbs-White, Declan Rice, Conor Chaplin, Lewis Dunk, Dominic Solanke, Jadon Sancho,

BBC - Morgan Rogers, Kyle Walker- Peters, Nathan Wood, Jacob Murphy, Tino Livramento, Morgan Gibbs-White, Bukayo Saka, Declan Rice, Conor Chaplin, Liam Delap, Fraser Forster, Jadon Sancho, Aaron Wan-Bissaka

This week’s PL goal involvements.

Goals
Harvey Barnes (Newcastle)
Rico Lewis (Manchester City)
Morgan Gibbs-White (Nottingham Forest)
Conor Chaplin (Ipswich)
Jamie Vardy (Leicester)
Dominic Solanke (Spurs)
Jadon Sancho (Chelsea)
Cole Palmer (x2 pen) (Chelsea)
Jarrod Bowen (West Ham)

Assists
Jacob Murphy (x2) (Newcastle)
Will Hughes (x2) (Crystal Palace)
Elliot Anderson (Nottingham Forest)
Callum Hudson-Odoi (Nottingham Forest)
Morgan Gibbs-White (Nottingham Forest)
Jamie Vardy (Leicester)
James Maddison (Spurs)
Jarrod Bowen (West Ham)


Konsa and Rogers started for Aston Villa. Barkley, Watkins and Philogene were used from the bench. Mings was unused.

Lumley. Walker-Peters, Harwood-Bellis, Bree, Wood, Downes, Dibling, Armstrong and Archer started for Southampton. Amo-Ameyaw was used from the bench. McCarthy, Edwards and Taylor were unused.

Lewis-Potter started for Brentford. Mee and Maghoma were used from the bench. Trevitt was unused.

Pope, Hall, Livramento, Burn, Longstaff, Barnes and Murphy started for Newcastle. Trippier, Wilson and Gordon were used from the bench. Targett and Kelly were unused.

Henderson, Guehi, Chalobah, Mitchell, Hughes and Eze started for Crystal Palace. Nketiah was used from the bench. Ward and Clyne were unused.

Walker and Lewis started for Manchester City. Grealish was used from the bench. Carson, Simpson-Pusey, Wilson-Esbrand, Wright, O’Reilly and McAtee were unused.

Mainoo started for Manchester United. Maguire, Mount and Rashford were used from the bench.

Anderson, Gibbs-White, Hudson-Odoi and Yates started for Nottingham Forest. Toffolo and Ward-Prowse were unused.

Smith Rowe started for Fulham. King, Sessegnon and Godo were unused.

Rice and Saka started for Arsenal. Nwaneri was used from the bench. Heaven, Lewis-Skelly and Sterling were unused.

Davis, Johnson, Chaplin, Hutchinson and Delap started for Ipswich. J Clarke was used from the bench. Walton, H Clarke, Townsend and Phillips were unused.

Smith, Cook and Tavenier started for Bournemouth. Hill was used from the bench. Dennis, Aarons and Kinsey were unused.

Justin, Coady and Vardy started for Leicester. Skipp and Mavididi were used from the bench. Thomas and Choudhury were unused.

Dunk started for Brighton. Welbeck was used from the bench. Steele was unused.

Forster and Solanke started for Spurs. Maddison and Gray were used from the bench. Austin, Spence and Lankshear were unused.

Colwill, Sancho and Palmer started for Chelsea. Madueke was used from the bench. Adarabioyo and Drewsbury-Hall were unused.

Killman, Wan-Bissaka and Bowen started for West Ham. Cresswell and Ings were used from the bench.

Johnstone started for Wolves. Doyle was used from the bench. Bentley and Dawson were unused.

 

England forward Cole Palmer, 22, is drawing attention from Real Madrid because of his consistent performances at Chelsea.. (Fichajes - in Spanish), external

Trent Alexander-Arnold is in negotiations over a new Liverpool contract and his team-mates want him to stay, according to Alexis Mac Allister. (Daily Mirror)

The former Manchester United and England centre-back Gary Pallister has revealed that he suffered debilitating migraines and violent headaches during his playing career that left him unable to train. (The Times)

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...r-united-open-sell-marcus-rashford-lifestyle/
Manchester United thinking of selling Marcus Rashford due to his lifestyle. Saudi Arabia and PSG mentioned as options.

 

Gomez, Alexander-Arnold and Jones start for Liverpool. Quansah, McConnell, Elliott and Norris are on the bench.

 

Godfrey is on the bench for Atalanta
Bellingham starts for Real Madrid.

Edwards is on the bench for Sporting

Clark is on the bench for Salzburg

Konsa, Watkins and Rogers start for Aston Villa. Barkley, Philogene and Mings are on the bench.

Dier is on the bench for Bayern.

 

Jude gets another

 

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