England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  2. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    mendy, Hernandez, Robertson, alphonso davis, Grimaldo, nuno mendes, udogie all as good or better imo

    I think a fit chillwell is as good but he’s never fit
     
  3. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    A fully fit Chilwell can't even get into an England squad half the time, he's miles off Shaw. Of those you list, I'd be confident of Hernandez starting over Shaw for whoever, the rest would depend on the manager and there's isn't that much in it I don't think, especially off the ball.
     
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  4. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC


    Unless things change then sadly for him, looks like another wasted season on the horizon sat on Arsenals bench.
     
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  5. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    #480 horrisengleton, Aug 12, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2024
    Marseille have forked out €30m for Wahi so they had the money for Nketiah, they just chose not to pay it. I said the other day I think there's a big disparity between how much Arsenal think Nketiah is worth and how much other clubs think he's worth. Him and Nelson made pretty big errors signing new deals, they're being priced out of moves while not being considered key members of the squad they're part of. Very poor situation for them.

    If Nketiah spends this season on the periphery at Arsenal he'll essentially get to 26 years of age having played little more than two season's worth of league minutes. Very bizarre career.

    EDIT: Just read Arsenal are paying Nketiah and Nelson both £100k p/w; not exactly the biggest victims then, but they still made a mistake signing new deals from a footballing perspective imo.
     
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  6. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    It’s kind of hard to imagine because I don’t earn anything like that much money and I guess it’s easy for us to say they should go somewhere else just to play but likely earn less so maybe they are just happy to sit on the bench and earn ridiculous amounts of money for little effort. I wonder if that’s just a sad reality and Arsenal are just happy to pay that money just in case they need them. It’s sad but it’s the only reason I can think of them signing new deals when clearly they won’t be first choice.
     
  7. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Arteta thought they would come good

    sadly neither will ever be a starter
     
  8. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Imo shaw is a far better footballer than Robertson
     
  9. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Shaw's biggest problem is getting on the pitch. In 10 years at Old Trafford he's only made 30 league appearances twice.
     
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  10. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    To be fair he got his leg snapped in two. He's lucky to be still playing.
     
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  11. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Yeah it's only from a footballing perspective that they made a mistake. They wouldn't have got that money anywhere else so hard to blame them too much for signing. They both desperately need to move this year though, I think when all is said and done they may well have regrets.
     
  12. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    robertson is quicker and a better defender imo and has end product

    I like shaw but he’s not world class
     
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  13. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Nelson got his contract extended one year ago, its hard to imagine based on his career so far that there was ever belief he'd be worth that contract. At no point has he even been given a chance at Arsenal so bizarre to give him a long time high wage deal.

    Really Arsenal should have got rid of both him and Nketiah at least a couple of seasons ago and given them large sell on clauses on their deals. At least Nketiah did get some game time, really hard to see what the plan was with Nelson.
     
  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Bournemouth are tonight being reported to be after Nketiah.

    Gallagher’s move fo Athletico might collapse and he would have to return to the UK and play for Chelsea’s U21’s until he is sold.
     
  15. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Chelsea are going to be in deep shit in a few years time.
     
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  16. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    If it collapses and he has to return to Chelsea for the start of the season, I can’t imagine he will just rot in the under 21’s until the next transfer window when none of this is his fault. That would just be terrible management from Chelsea…….then again, what am I saying off course it will happen.
     
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  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    They probably going to end up trying to flog him to Saudi.
     
  18. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Someone would take him on loan late in the window. I suspect a number of Chelsea players will go out that way as a fallback for clubs who fail to get their main targets.
     
  19. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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    PFA player of the year nominations for Foden, Palmer and Watkins and PFA young player of the year nominations for Palmer, Saka and Mainoo.

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    David Ornstein reporting Arsenal have rejected a loan approach from Ajax for Ramsdale as they want him to leave permanently this summer.

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    Same Johnstone of the way out of Crystal Palace with Dean Henderson now firmly number 1.
     
  20. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I’m not sure a loan would be acceptable for Chelsea. Saudi bailed Chelsea out last summer and could easily do so again.
     
  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Jarrad Branthwaite is currently out injured and might not be fit to be called up for either the seniors or u21’ s in a couple of weeks time.
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Cole Palmer’s Chelsea contract now lasts until 2033.
     
  23. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Chelsea signing Palmer does feel like the infinite monkeys on infinite typewriters finally coming up with Hamlet.
     
  24. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Think they'll just want the wages off their books for some of them. No value in paying a dozen players millions to rot in the U23s.
    Can't see many of their current lot being the type that would happily go out to Saudi.
     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Luke Shaw out until Next month and will miss the matches against Ireland and Finland.
     

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