England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

The BBC radio commentator talking about the chances of Mount getting recalled by Tuchel.

 

Bellingham scores again but real are behind again

 

Mbappe needs to stop trying to steal the limelight. Needs to step aside and defer to Bellingham more, he’s not the leader of this team.

 

Intense speculation is mounting that former England football captain David Beckham will finally be knighted after growing close to the King in recent months. (Daily Mirror)

Free agent Dele is said to be unhappy after suffering another injury setback. (The Sun)

England defender Harry Maguire, 31, is attracting attention from several Premier League clubs amid uncertainty over his situation at Manchester United. (Football Insider)

🚨 Amorim: “Since I arrive I see Luke Shaw working a lot in the gym and working a lot on the pitch. If he continues that behaviour, he is a top player and we need him“.

"We control the load during the games and trainings, he was losing weight, doing everything right”. pic.twitter.com/3GcJnzlTLJ

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) December 5, 2024

Amorim: “Since I arrive I see Luke Shaw working a lot in the gym and working a lot on the pitch. If he continues that behaviour, he is a top player and we need him“. "We control the load during the games and trainings, he was losing weight, doing everything right”.

🚨👀 Rúben Amorim on Luke Shaw: “No matter how long he needs to return, I will be with him”.

“We will help him to return. Not just Man United, but your national team needs a guy like Luke Shaw, so we are here to help him”. pic.twitter.com/eBLGUi1LQU

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) December 5, 2024

Rúben Amorim on Luke Shaw: “No matter how long he needs to return, I will be with him”. “We will help him to return. Not just Man United, but your national team needs a guy like Luke Shaw, so we are here to help him”.

🔵❗️ Maresca: “ Noni Madueke has to understand he has to train every day good”.

“He has to be ambitious. He scored one, he has to go for the second and the third. He has to give more assists. He has to work more because he can be much, much, much better”. pic.twitter.com/uwdevFPo9I

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) December 5, 2024

Maresca: “ Noni Madueke has to understand he has to train every day good”. “He has to be ambitious. He scored one, he has to go for the second and the third. He has to give more assists. He has to work more because he can be much, much, much better”.

🔴📈 Rúben Amorim: “My effect on Rashford? A new coach is always like that, but there is so much to improve”.

“He can do so much better. We all have to improve. But it was a great job from the players”. pic.twitter.com/ACcDdzJXRc

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) December 2, 2024

Rúben Amorim: “My effect on Rashford? A new coach is always like that, but there is so much to improve”. “He can do so much better. We all have to improve. But it was a great job from the players”.

 

Nelson and Smith Rowe start for Fulham. King and Sessegnon are on the bench.
Dunk starts for Brighton. Steele is on the bench.

 

Smith and Tavenier start for Bournemouth. Hill, Aarons, Kinsey and Cook on the bench.
Forster, Gray, Maddison and Solanke start for Spurs. Austin, Spence, Olusesi and Lankshear are on the bench.

 

PL Week 14

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PL - Week 14

PL English Players of the Match - Week 14
Dean Henderson - Ipswich v Crystal Palace
Ashley Young - Everton v Wolves
Cole Palmer - Southampton v Chelsea

Pl English players of their Club - Week 14
Leif Davis - Ipswich
Dean Henderson - Crystal Palace
Jarrod Bowen - West Ham
Ashley Young - Everton
Morgan Gibbs-White - Nottingham Forest
Cole Palmer - Chelsea
James Maddison - Spurs

BBC Sport English players of the Match - Week 14
Jamie Vardy - Leicester v West Ham
Noni Madueke - Southampton v Chelsea
Morgan Rogers - Aston Villa v Brentford

BBC Sport English players of their Club - Week 14
Omari Hutchinson - Ipswich
Jamie Vardy - Leicester
Aaron Wan-Bissaka - West Ham
Kyle Walker-Peters - Southampton
Noni Madueke - Chelsea
Morgan Rogers - Aston Villa
Fraser Forster - Spurs

Second and third places

Pl - Marc Guehi, Jamie Vardy, Dwight McNeil, James Tarkowski, Anthony Gordon, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Curtis Jones, Kyle Walker-Peters, Noni Madueke, Morgan Rogers, Emille Smith Rowe, Fraser Forster,

BBC - Dean Henderson, Marc Guehi, Jarrod Bowen, James Tarkowski, Ashley Young, Tommy Doyle, Jack Grealish, Elliot Anderson, Morgan Gibbs-White, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Curtis Jones, Cole Palmer, Declan Rice, Tyrone Mings, Ollie Watkins, Keane Lewis-Potter, Archie Gray,

This week’s PL goal involvements.

Goals
Jamie Vardy (Leicester)
Ashley Young (Everton)
Anthony Gordon (Newcastle)
Curtis Jones (Liverpool)
Noni Madueke (Chelsea)
Cole Palmer (Chelsea)
Jadon Sancho (Chelsea)
Morgan Rogers (Aston Villa)
Ollie Watkins (Pen) (Aston Villa)

Assists
Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace)
Trent Alexander-Arnold (X2) (Liverpool)
Kyle Walker-Peters (Southampton)
Noni Madueke (Chelsea)
Declan Rice (Arsenal)
Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa)
Marcus Tavernier (Bournemouth)

H Clarke, Davis, Greaves, Hutchinson, J Clarke and Delap started for Ipswich. Chaplin was used from the bench. Walton, Johnson, Townsend and Phillips were unused.

Henderson, Guehi, Chalobah, Mitchell, Hughes and Eze started for Crystal Palace. Nketiah was used from the bench. Ward, Clyne and Kporha were unused.

Justin, Coady and Vardy started for Leicester. Mavididi was used from the bench. Thomas and Skipp were unused.

Kilman, Wan-Bissaka, Bowen and Ings started for West Ham. Foderingham and Casey were unused.

Pickford, Tarkowski, Young, Branthwaite, McNeil and Calvert- Lewin started for Everton. Armstrong and Harrison were used from the bench.

Dawson started for Wolves. Doyle was used from the bench. Bentley and Johnstone was unused.

Grealish started for Manchester City. Walker, Lewis and McAtee were used from the bench. Carson, Wright and O’Reilly were unused.

Gibbs-White and Yates started for Nottingham Forest. Anderson was used from the bench. Ward-Prowse and Hudson-Odoi were unused.

Pope, Hall, Livramento, Burn, Gordon and Murphy started for Newcastle. Barnes, Willock, Longstaff and Wilson were used from the bench. Targett and Kelly were unused.

Gomez, Quansah and Jones started for Liverpool. Alexander-Arnold was used from the bench. Nallo, Elliott, Morton and Nyoni were unused.

Lumley, Walker-Peters, Bree, Wood, Stephens, Armstrong and Archer started for Southampton. Edwards and Taylor were used from the bench. McCarthy and Amo-Ameyaw were unused.

Adarabioyo, Madueke and Palmer started for Chelsea. Drewsbury-Hall and Sancho was used from the bench. Colwill was unused.

Rice and Saka started for Arsenal. Heaven, Nwaneri and Sterling were unused.

Maguire and Mount started for Manchester United. Rashford was used from the bench. Kukonki was unused.

Konsa, Mings, Rogers and Watkins started for Aston Villa. Barkley and Philogene were used from the bench.

Lewis-Potter started for Brentford. Maghoma was used from the bench. Mee, Meghoma and Trevitt were unused.

Nelson and Smith Rowe started for Fulham. King was used from the bench. Sessegnon was unused

Dunk started for Brighton. Steele was unused.

Smith and Tavernier started for Bournemouth. Cook was used from the bench. Hill, Aarons and Kinsey were unused.

Forster, Gray, Maddison and Solanke started for Spurs. Austin, Spence, Olusesi and Lankshear were unused.

 

Interesting that Noni got player of the match yet he was taken down a peg or two by his manager after the game. Probably clearly knows what he’s capable of achieving and wants more from him to get to that next level.

 

Sancho probably won't be the best influence on him.

 

Aston Villa defender Tyrone Mings says his recovery from a long-term knee injury was "awful" and led to doubts about whether he would ever play again. (The Athletic)

 

Merseyside Derby postponed.

 

Crystal Palace are unlikely to entertain offers from Manchester City and Arsenal for England midfielder Adam Wharton, 20. (Football Insider), external

 

Konsa and Rogers start for Villa. Mings, Barkley, Watkins and Philogene are on the bench.
Lumley, Walker-Peters, Harwood-Bellis, Bree, Wood, Downes, Dibling, Armstrong and Archer start for Southampton. McCarthy, Edwards, Taylor and Amo-Ameyaw are on the bench.

Lewis-Potter starts for Brentford. Mee, Trevitt and Maghoma are on the bench.
Pope, Hall, Livramento, Burn. Barnes, Murphy and Longstaff start for Newcastle. Trippier, Targett, Kelly, Wilson and Gordon are on the bench.

Henderson, Guehi, Chalobah, Mitchell, Hughes and Eze start for Crystal Palace. Ward, Clyne and Nketiah are on the bench.
Walker and Lewis start for Manchester City. Carson, Simpson-Pusey, Wilson-Esbrand, Grealish, Wright, O’Reilly and McAtee are on the bench.

9 English starters for Southampton! Incredibly high for this day and age for any PL team.

Anthony Gordon has been dopped to the bench for Newcastle. Gittens, Raahford or Sancho to take his squad spot come March?

 

Howe's said it's just giving him a break, as he was fatigued after the Liverpool match.

 

Gordon scored against Liverpool ffs, he is not out of favour at all.

 

Managers would be stupid not to rotate at this time of the season.

 

So Grealish puts in a stellar display in midfield the other night, but gets rewarded with a spot on the bench today. But Gundogan, who has been awful all season, starts yet again. Pep is baffling sometimes.

 

Wheres foden

 

Ill

 

Illness

 

It's crazy how many times we've seen Walker make the exact same error in the last 12 months. I know they've got a lack of options but it's crazy to see how much faith Pep still has in him. Same as Klopp with Henderson at the back end of his time with Liverpool.

When Walker inevitably leaves City at the end of the season, I can't see there being many suitors for him at the top level, other than maybe Sheffield United. He'll almost certainly make a dramatic step down from City.

 

He has been linked with Saudi Arabia a lot and probably more likely than a return to Sheffield United.

 

I don't even think he'd be a worthwhile investment for a Saudi Club, not at all. Wouldn't be worth the inevitably huge wage packet.

 

Agreed, as you know I’ve been a big fan of his over the years but now it’s time for him to be moved on. Was actually on X discussing with other City fans blaming Lewis for that goal but as far as I’m concerned he did little wrong, he was in line with his centre backs which is what he should be doing when defending the line and if Walker wasn’t in a World of his own and doing his job, Munoz would have been offside, really can’t blame Lewis for doing what he should be doing.

 

It's just harsher on Lewis in general too because he's young and playing out of position. The mistakes Walker is making aren't really ones you can blame on physical decline. It's really basic stuff that he's just not doing.