England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

"They don't look very good" 😬

Mikel Arteta on Saka and Rice's injuries 🗣 pic.twitter.com/iAaZZdCIGb

— Sky Sports Premier League (@SkySportsPL) November 10, 2024

Arteta doesn't expect Rice and Saka to be fit for international duty.

— Miguel Delaney (@MiguelDelaney) November 10, 2024

 

Rice doesn't look to good but he plays him anyway. Bellend

 

The FA are going to have to put their foot down sometime and refuse to bow down otherwise I sure come tomorrow we getting about 8 withdrawals and nowhere near that many replacements. There is speculation on social media that Bellingham won’t come if Trent is not there.

Expect we going to get Gallagher and Gomes playing together. I honestly think we might lose both matches.

 

But you can bet you’re bottom dollar that they will be fit for Arsenals next game……

 

100%. The FA and media never call clubs out because club fans then turn on the media and a club v country row will only be won by the clubs if push come to shove - the PFA want an international football strike and the FA is fearful of triggering one.

 

Sounds like Palmer is also going to be pulled out/ fail the medical.

 

It’s just people joking based on their friendship and the whispers about Bellingham not being as friendly with anyone else.

 

We'll get a load of withdrawals with it being Carsley's last game as caretaker. Can't imagine we'd have so many likely withdrawals under Tuchel.

At least Rice is pretty much an ever present internationally so missing one isn't so bad. Saka is a bad case of Arteta repeatedly overplaying him and expecting him to drop out of international camps though as his only form of rest. Last season he missed two of the four camps and it still apparently wasn't enough. Too many managers think they have absolutely zero responsibility to the players. No doubt with no breaks from November to March, Arteta will be satisfied to run him into the ground before expecting him to drop out with a nebulous injury.

 

Hopefully not but March is always the least popular international break with clubs so it be that factor vs impressing the new boss.

 

He subbed Saka on for 30 mins at 3-0 to Preston, that alone tells you they take zero accountability.

 

PL - Week 11

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PL- Week 11

PL English Players of the Match - Week 11
Emile Smith Rowe - Crystal Palace v Fulham
Jordan Pickford - West Hak v Everton
Liam Delap - Spurs v Ipswich

Pl English players of their Club - Week 11
Trevoh Chalobah - Crystal Palace
Emile Smith Rowe - Fulham
Jordan Pickford - Everton
Harry Winks - Leicester
Liam Delap - Ipswich

BBC Sport English players of the Match - Week 11
Jordan Pickford - West Ham v Everton
Liam Delap - Spurs v Ipswich

BBC Sport English players of their Club - Week 11
Jordan Pickford - Everton
Tyler Dibling - Southampton
Ezri Konsa - Aston Villa
Harry Winks - Leicester
Liam Delap - Ipswich

Second and third places

Pl - Lewis Cook, Dean Henderson, Marc Guehi, Aaron Wan - Bissaka, Max Kilman, Ashley Young, Craig Dawson, Tyler Dibling, Adam Lallana, Phil Foden, Ryan Yates, Harvey Barnes,

BBC - Keane Lewis - Potter, Lewis Cook, Dean Henderson, Marc Guehi, Emile Smith Rowe, Reiss Nelson, Danny Ings, Jarrad Branthwaite, Craig Dawson, Adam Lallana, Elliot Anderson, Harvey Barnes, Dominic Solanke, Omari Hutchinson

This week’s PL goal involvements.

Goals
Emile Smith Rowe (Fulham)
Harvey Barnes (Newcastle)
Liam Delap (Ipswich)

Assists
Lewis Cook (Bournemouth)
Liam Delap (Ipswich)

Lewis-Potter started for Brentford. Mee, Meghoma and Maghoma were unused.

Smith and Cook started for Bournemouth. Tavenier was used from the bench. Hill and Aarons were unused.

Henderson, Clyne, Chalobah, Mitchell and Guhei started for Crystal Palace. Kporha and Agbinone were used from the bench. Matthews, Ward and Marsh were unused.

Nelson and Smith Rowe started for Fulham. Reed was used from the bench. Sessegnon was unused.

Kilman, Wan-Bissaka and Bowen started for West Ham. Ings was used from the bench. Foderingham, Cresswell and Scarles was unused.

Pickford, Tarkowski, Young, Branthwaite and Calvert-Lewin started for Everton. Harrison was used from the bench. Keane, Armstrong and Bates were unused.

Dawson started for Wolves. Johnstone, Pond and Doyle were unused.

Ramsdale, Walker - Peters, Harwood-Bellis, Armstrong, Lallana and Archer started for Southampton. Dibling was used from the bench. McCarthy, Bree, Wood and Amo-Ameyaw were unused.

Hinshelwood and Welbeck started for Brighton. Steele was unused.

Walker, Simpson-Pusey, Lewis and Foden started for Manchester City. Wilson-Esbrand, Wright, O’Reilly and McAtee were unused.

Alexander-Arnold and Jones started for Liverpool. Gomez, Quansah and Morton were unused.

Konsa, Rogers, Ramsey and Watkins started for Villa. Philogene was used from the bench. Mings was unused.

Rashford started for Manchester United. Heaton and Mount were unused.

Justin and Winks started for Leicester. Coady, Choudhury, Skipp and Mavididi were unused.

Gibbs-White, Hudson-Odoi and Yates started for Nottingham Forest. Anderson and Ward-Prowse were used from the bench.

Pope, Hall, Livramento, Burn, Willock, Longstaff and Gordon started for Newcastle. Barnes was used from the bench. Targett, Kelly, Murphy and Miley were unused.

Solanke started for Spurs. Maddison was used from the bench. Forster, Spence, Gray and Lankshear were unused.

Davis, Johnson, Hutchinson and Delap started for Ipswich. Hirst and J Clarke were used from the bench. Walton, H Clarke, Woolfenden, Townsend and Chaplin were unused.

Colwill, Madueke and Palmer started for Chelsea. James was used from the bench. Adarabioyo was unused.

White, Rice and Saka started for Arsenal. Lewis - Skelly and Nwaneri were unused.

 

Hope arteta gets sacked

 

I very much doubt that will happen even if the greedy PFA would try to sanction it. It would just make them look like the greedy idiots they are! Players don’t even directly pay them, all their greed comes from TV money which they conned out of the FA.

 

How Can they want an international football strike when there's already too many club games

 

You were for months insistent that Gallagher was never going to even be called up again, and that moving to Atletico was the death knell for his international career!

 

Bukayo Saka and Declan Rice join list of injury doubts for England
Arsenal pair could withdraw from Lee Carsley’s Nations League squad, while Chelsea’s Cole Palmer also ‘in pain’ after Stamford Bridge draw

Lee Carsley faces a spate of stars withdrawing through injury from the England squad for the Nations League matches this week.

Bukayo Saka and Declan Rice have been rated as unlikely to be fit by Arsenal and Cole Palmer and Anthony Gordon are doubts when the squad reports on Monday. Manchester City’s Jack Grealish and Kyle Walker are also doubtful for the matches away to Greece, on Thursday, and home to Ireland, three day later, while Trent Alexander-Arnold is definitely out.

Saka suffered a muscle injury in a tackle with Marc Cucurella and was substituted late on in Arsenal’s 1-1 draw with Chelsea on Sunday. Rice was replaced on 71 minutes at Stamford Bridge after the midfielder broke a toe last week.

Palmer recovered from an issue to his left knee but the attacking midfielder was limping and in “pain” at full time, according to Enzo Maresca, the Chelsea head coach. Gordon, the Newcastle United winger, has a hip injury and Alexander-Arnold, the Liverpool full back, is out with a hamstring problem.

Mikel Arteta said that he expected Saka and Rice, his Arsenal players, would be likely to have to pull out. “It doesn’t look good, because for two players of that importance to tell you they cannot continue in the game, obviously it’s not good news,” Arteta, the Arsenal manager, said. “I don’t know whether to expect them to be fit because if not, they don’t come off.”

https://www.thetimes.com/sport/foot...n-list-of-injury-doubts-for-england-0r8b29cd7




Walker might withdraw now as well. Surely Livramento will be promoted back up then?

 

He's says two players of that importance yet plays then every minute. Fuvk off arteta

 

I expected him to be dropped from the first two Carsley squads. I am skeptical if he will be involved under Tuchel.

 

Solanke is also now an injury doubt.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/england-injuries-carsley-saka-rice-34079973

Wonder if Walker - Peters could be Trent’s replacement as he was on standby in September. Toney for a Solanke replacement?

 

Livramento and Welbeck should be there imo. I don't see why Livramento is being kept in the U21s.

 

Trent Alexander-Arnold set to be sidelined for a couple of weeks with a hamstring injury. Avoided more serious damage by coming off early against Aston Villa. Not ruled out of Southampton on Nov 24 ahead of Real Madrid [Nov 27] and Man City [Dec 1] games. More @TimesSport

— paul joyce (@_pauljoyce) November 11, 2024

 

I haven't been following the Reece James dialogue but is he not going to be a factor until he's much more of a sure thing physically?