England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

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  1. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023

    Liverpool have got Real Madrid in the next group of CL matches. That Curtis Jones/Jude Bellingham match-up is going to be interesting.
     
  2. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Class assist from jones. Our midfield options aren't looking too bad. Jones gomes rice Bellingham Wharton if he gets fit.
     
  3. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    What makes those players special is they're all playing regularly In the champions league apart from Wharton who will sooner rather than later be in there as well
     
  4. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    As opposed to other Countries players who aren’t playing Champions League football?
     
  5. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I mean for us. Been a while since we've had midfielders playing regularly in the champions league
     
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  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Rice ruled out of the Inter tie and flagged as an early doubt for the trip to Stamford Bridge. #AFC #UCL

    'Declan, unfortunately, picked up an injury against Newcastle. He was able to finish the game, but he wasn't feeling good in the last few days, so we have to assess him on Thursday to understand whether he will be fit or not for the weekend

    Declan Rice #AFC #CFC

    'It was a knock, so it's a problem with his foot. He wasn't comfortable with it, so at the moment, he's not fit.'
     
  7. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    With Rice injuried we could 3 or 4 members of the euros U21 team in the starting lineup.
     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Palmer is also a major injury doubt
     
  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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    Manchester United are planning a fresh move for Everton and England centre-back Jarrad Branthwaite, 22, in the summer. (Talksport), external

    England centre-back Harry Maguire, 31, will refuse to consider leaving Manchester United in January and believes he can earn a new contract at the club. (TBR Football)

    Chelsea and England forward Cole Palmer will have a scan on his left knee after the 22-year-old was injured in Sunday's draw with Manchester United. (Standard), external

    New England manager Thomas Tuchel will not influence interim boss Lee Carsley's selections for the Nations League matches later this month. (Mail), external


    Lewis Hall, the answer to England's left-back problem? "Lewis has got the potential to be an England left-back. England have got to take a gamble." - Stuart Pearce

    FA fined over booing of the National Anthem in Dublin. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c748wl7ml7ro
     
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  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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    Maresca on Palmer's injury from martinez tackle: "Cole didn’t train yesterday, see if train with us today. Hope ok for Sunday, need to wait and see, then decide."
    On Sancho illness: "He is recovering from that but had a knock in the session also. He is out tomorrow.
    Maresca: “For sure Jadon Sancho will be out again tomorrow”.
    “We will see if he can be available for Sunday against Arsenal. If not, after the international break”.
    .
     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/59...eruk&utm_campaign=twitterfc&utm_medium=social
    Jones? Hudson-Odoi? James? The outsiders for an England call-up in Lee Carsley’s final squad

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    With Thomas Tuchel waiting to start work in January, England interim head coach Lee Carsley has one last chance to pick a squad that he feels demonstrates the breadth of talent which will be at the new man’s disposal.

    Carsley has never looked entirely comfortable in the spotlight, after stepping up from his job in charge of England Under-21s when Gareth Southgate called time on almost eight years in charge following the summer’s European Championship. He has enjoyed his time out on the grass with the players more than being in the media glare and under the public’s scrutiny over his decisions.


    That applies particularly when he has named his two squads so far.

    Tuchel will have a deep talent pool to choose from once he takes over in the new year for the push towards World Cup 2026 and that can be a luxury if utilised properly, but also brings added pressure.


    Carsley has tried to stay true to his insistence that none of his selections would follow a “copy and paste” formula.

    “I wanted to make sure it feels fresh … feels that when you get that email or WhatsApp (to say) that you’ve been called up, that it’s an achievement because it shouldn’t be something that is taken for granted,” he said after naming his previous squad for what turned out to be a home defeat against Greece and a narrow away win in Finland last month, both in the Nations League.

    “I thought it was important that it is not just a copy and paste. I want them to feel like they have earned their place in the squad. The reality is you want a player to be coming in in top form and fighting for a position in the team.”


    Picking players on reputation and not form was a criticism often laid at Southgate’s door.

    There were four changes in Carsley’s October squad, including a first call-up in seven years for now Tottenham Hotspur striker Dominic Solanke, while Manchester United defender Harry Maguire, one of Southgate’s stalwarts, was left out. Carsley has shown he has not been afraid to look in a different direction.

    So, who could be the surprise contenders, the outsiders, for his final squad being named today (Thursday), as England look to win Nations League group B2 in these games away in Greece a week today and at home against the Republic of Ireland three days later and so win promotion back into Europe’s elite?

    Left-back has been a problem position for England in recent years because of injuries to Manchester United’s Luke Shaw and Ben Chilwell of Chelsea. Manchester City’s Rico Lewis played there in the shock 2-1 home defeat against Greece last month while Trent Alexander-Arnold swapped flanks from right-back for the 3-1 win in Finland three days later, but there are a couple more options available to Carsley this time.

    Reece James finally returned from a pre-season injury for Chelsea last month and has completed the 90 minutes in back-to-back appearances for the first time since April 2023. Although predominantly right-sided, he has started his club’s past two Premier League games at left-back.

    However, new Chelsea head coach Enzo Maresca is being cautious in how he handles James, attempting to nurse him back to full fitness. So an England squad return this month may seem premature.

    Carsley would like a left-footed player at left-back to provide balance and Newcastle United’s Lewis Hall is having a good season. The 20-year-old has been on the England pathway since the under-15s and has played three times under Carsley for the under-21s.

    It took Hall until the back end of last season to be trusted by Newcastle coach Eddie Howe following a summer move from Chelsea, but he has grabbed his chance this season, with nine starts from their 13 matches, and has come on a lot defensively, is technically efficient and has a good engine to get up and down.

    Hall dealt with Bukayo Saka well last weekend in a 1-0 win against Arsenal, where he was named man of the match, and is arguably Newcastle’s player of the season so far.

    Another young player in good form is Liverpool’s Curtis Jones.

    The 23-year-old has played both as one of the two defensive midfielders and in a more advanced role in his 12 appearances this season, and made a big impact off the bench in the 2-1 comeback win over Brighton & Hove Albion at Anfield at the weekend, teeing up Mohamed Salah for the decisive goal, before starting and creating the opener for Luis Diaz as they beat Bayer Leverkusen 4-0 in the Champions League on Tuesday.

    Emile Smith Rowe has also started the season in good form for new club Fulham after a summer move from Arsenal, scoring twice and providing two assists in 12 appearances across all competitions. The 24-year-old has a goal and an assist from his three senior caps but has not been in the England picture since playing on the left wing in a 3-0 friendly win against Ivory Coast in March 2022.

    The problem for players such as Smith Rowe is the abundance of attacking midfield talent available to Carsley — and ultimately Tuchel.

    Tottenham’s James Maddison is another from that group who, at the age of 27, probably would have earned more than his seven caps but for the competition he faces to get in the team, even when he has been in his best shape. But he has enough on his plate to get his place back in the starting line-up at club level right now with Dejan Kulusevski the preferred choice as Ange Postecoglou’s chief playmaker.

    Carsley is more likely to look to the future, but with Nations League promotion in the balance, he could spring a big surprise and go back to Jordan Henderson, who has been in good form as captain of Dutch club Ajax, among his defensive midfield options. The 34-year-old has 81 caps but last featured in an England squad in March, when he was an unused substitute in a friendly against Belgium, and it would be a major shock to see his name in Carsley’s last squad.


    Bournemouth’s Lewis Cook earned his only senior cap in 2018, but has begun the season in solid fashion. The 27-year-old deserves to be in the conversation, but an actual call-up would be another surprise.

    Like Henderson, who left Liverpool for Al Etiffaq in summer 2023 before returning to Europe with Ajax in January, Brentford striker Ivan Toneychose to move to the Saudi Pro League, and joining Al Ahli in the most recent transfer window seems to have ended his England career as the 28-year-old was not picked by Carsley in either the September or October squads.

    But there are some younger attacking players about who Tuchel will be hoping to see progress.

    Aston Villa midfielder Morgan Rogers has been in excellent form and is expected to shake off a minor knock, but Villa manager Unai Emery has been vocally cautious about his workload, even questioning the 22-year-old’s recent call-ups to the under-21s, insisting there is no point giving him England recognition unless it’s with the senior team.

    With concerns over early-season fatigue as Villa juggle Premier League and Champions League football, it is doubtful Emery would be receptive to even a senior squad place now, although it would surely be a dream come true for Rogers.

    Callum Hudson-Odoi has been equally as impressive on the left for Nottingham Forest on their surprise climb to third place, starting eight of the 10 Premier League games, and scoring twice. Hudson-Odoi, who turns 24 today, earned three senior England caps as a Chelsea teenager five years ago but has not been involved since.

    If Carsley really wants to spring a surprise with a naturally left-sided player, Brentford’s Keane Lewis-Potter would do the trick. Like Hudson-Odoi, the 23-year-old has started eight of the 10 league games and has caught the eye with his performances. Carsley certainly has options.

    With the talent we have available, it would have been possible to pick a 40-man squad and justify having them all in,” Carsley also said last month. “The challenge is making sure we pick a competitive squad and a squad that can win the two games.”

    The core of the squad Tuchel will inherit as England look to take the final step to finally winning a major tournament again may look set in stone, but there are still opportunities for emerging players to make a mark.









     
  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Mings, Konsa, Watkins and Rogers start for Aston Villa. Ramsey and Philogene are on the bench.
     
  14. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Tyrone mings is brainless
     
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  15. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    When Morgan rogers is In full flow he's an absolute monster
     
  16. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
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  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Kane starts for Bayern. Dier is on the bench.

    Clark starts for Salzburg.

    White and Saka start for Arsenal. Lewis - Skelly, Setford, Butler - Oyedeji, Nwaneri, Sterling and Robinson are on the bench.

    Gallagher starts for Atletico Madrid.

    Godfrey is on the bench for Atalanta.
     
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  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    The Athletics comments are all Ryan Yates and Elliot Anderson should be called up.
     
  19. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Nothing more inevitable than England fans demanding a call-up for an unremarkable player of a non-Big 6 club after a month of good league form.
     
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  20. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Arsenal's squad building has been so poor. They've loaded up on a few player archetypes and have hardly any difference-makers in attack. If they can't dominate the duels they look turgid. Whenever I watch them away from home in the Champions League they hardly even look like scoring.
     
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  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Real Madrid will make a January move for Liverpool's 26-year-old England right-back Trent Alexander-Arnold, who is out of contract at the end of the season (Marca - in Spanish), external

    But Liverpool are prepared to block any offers for their first-team players in January. (Football Insider)

    Tottenham are considering a move for 23-year-old Nottingham Forest and England winger Callum Hudson-Odoi. (Football Insider), external

    Interim boss Lee Carsley has injury headaches to contend with as he selects his final squad before handing the England reins to Thomas Tuchel.(Daily Express)
     
  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    ‘What else are we expecting Carsley to speak about?
    As well as the squad announcement, there are other matters at play today.

    Firstly: this is the first time we'll hear from Carsley since Thomas Tuchel was appointed, so it's a chance for the public to hear his thoughts on that.

    Also, he could face questions on his links to the Coventry City job. Mark Robins was sacked by the Championship side this morning after seven years and two promotions. Carsley is one of the early frontrunners with the bookies.’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ns-Nations-League-fixtures-Thomas-Tuchel.html
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    ‘Everton ace Jarrad Branthwaite is unlikely to be named in Lee Carsley’s final England squad, according to Sami Mokbel.‘
     
  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I'm not expecting hall or rogers to be called up
     

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