England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

What's insane is that he was so, so durable before this. It just shows what overplaying can do. Real concern about Saka, Bellingham and Rice in this regard for me. Every player is different and nothing is guaranteed either way, but some of our players have been playing insane amounts of minutes from incredibly young ages.

 

Bang on. He had this arrogance at youth level, but it hasn't translated to senior level. Whether that's down to the difficulty of the transition or the environment he's been in at senior level, I don't know, but it's largely why he doesn't perform in an environment that's more demanding of off-the-cuff individualism in the way high-stakes international football is, and why someone like Bellingham flourishes in it.

One other thing about Foden is that his development in his technical ability has massively outpaced his decision-making ability. He makes a lot of very poor or flippant decisions on the ball, especially when he has time to think. Again, that could be a factor of the environment he's played in at club level, but it's a massive issue when he's in an England shirt.

 

Real Madrid are planning to offer Liverpool and England right-back Trent Alexander-Arnold a contract in the range of £14m-15m per year until the 2029-30 season. The 26-year-old is out of contract at Anfield next summer. (Caught Offside)

Newcastle are willing to listen to offers for 25-year-old English midfielder Joe Willock in January. (Ekrem Konur)

England midfielder Jordan Henderson, 34, is set to see out the season with Ajax even though he has not yet found a home in Amsterdam and is keen on a move to former club Sunderland. (Algemeen Dagblad - in Dutch)

Bukayo Saka is hoping to be fit to face Liverpool in Sunday's title showdown. The Arsenal winger is battling to be ready for this weekend as he hopes to return to full training which would give Arsenal a major boost amid the club's current injury crisis. (Daily Mirror)

Pep Guardiola says Jack Grealish is set to be sidelined for at least a week while Manchester City will be without Jeremy Doku for "a little bit longer". (The Athletic)

 

"I just hope that I am part of his plans to play regularly"

Trent Alexander-Arnold on Thomas Tuchel becoming the England manager 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 pic.twitter.com/N9rkTgqKuV

— Sky Sports Football (@SkyFootball) October 24, 2024

 

Just trying to think of other players who were phenomenal for their clubs but, apart from maybe the odd wonder goal, somewhat disappointing with England. John Barnes, Ian Wright, Glenn Hoddle, Joe Cole and Robbie Fowler spring to mind.

 

It's before my time but I was under the impression that John Barnes was good for England. Probabaly solely basing that off his Brazil goal though.

 

A lot more got a reputation for being bad for England while good for club - usually based of sub par tournament performances.

 

That mazy solo goal in the Amaracana should have been the springboard for a brilliant international career. Instead, he was a bit like Raheem Sterling with some exciting approach play, but lacklustre end-product. He was a frustration and a pale shadow of the John Barnes who was killing it with Liverpool.

 

Like who?

 

A lot of the previous generation who played in the 2006-2011 era.

 

Probably Scholes, if we're honest. He had his moments for England but he was never the force he was for his club. Don't think I can beat Fowler though, of the players I'm old enough to have watched at the time.

 

The Golden Generation may not have particularly gelled as a team, but l don't think you can say any of the club phenomenons (Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Scholes, Ferdinand and Terry) were "bad" for England, can you?

 

I think it’s partly innate. Bellingham just seems like a more extroverted main character style personality than Foden. But I also think their respective journeys and the environments they’ve been in play a part.

Bellingham came through at a smaller and poorer club in a lower division, so was given much more responsibility earlier on in his career. He then moves to two different countries, including one where the club he is at is not just the biggest in the country but the world. He has also played under managers who are far less strict in terms of the tactical demands they place on their players, this includes Ancelotti, and has been given much more freedom.

Finally, Foden has been playing and developing alongside established stars for his whole professional career at City in a hugely successful era. It’s possible that whilst this has been a good thing in terms of it having not placed premature pressure/responsibility on him both internally and externally, it has also meant that he hasn’t had to grow up as quickly and solve issues and/or challenges in the way that say a Bellingham has. There could also be a confidence issue, whilst playing in a squad the quality of City’s can inspire and be a good learning curve, it can also be overawing if you are a youngster and lead to a sense of imposter syndrome.

 

Objectively not but the reputation of some of those was dented by tournament faliure.

 

I think you're probably right. It'll be interesting to see how he develops in the next six years or so. It'll be hard for him to develop a sense of protagonism but I think he can still make some improvements re: decision making and composure.

 

Besiktas are keen on the possibility of taking Everton striker Dominic Calvert-Lewin, 27, on loan, with Newcastle, Arsenal and Manchester United also interested in the Englishman. (Fotomac in Turkish)

Ipswich Town could terminate Kalvin Phillips' loan deal from Manchester Cityin the January transfer window if the 28-year-old midfielder does not get up to speed at Portman Road. (Football Insider)

Liverpool are set to step up their interest in Crystal Palace defender Marc Guehi, 24, amid uncertainty surrounding the future of 33-year-old Netherlands centre-back Virgil van Dijk. (Football Insider), external

Callum Wilson is unlikely to feature in Newcastle's busy three-game week after feeling a muscle tightness, with the club keen for the striker to return in the best possible condition. (Daily Mail)

 

Mikey Moore.... England cap in March at 17? Never say never. That's all I'll say but wow.

 

Maybe he would have to starting surely particularly as Tuchel doesn’t strike me as a call up young before they fully ready type of manager,

 

It'll be a real shame imo if Hudson-Odoi doesn't get a crack in the England squad soon. He's got so much to offer.

 

I am not sure Tuchel will be keen. He could never get him playing well at Chelsea.

 

🚨🚨🎙️| Enzo Maresca on Reece James:

“I spoke with him and I expected from him more in terms of leadership, inside the changing room and for different kinds of things..."

"He is doing well, he is progressing, but from Reece I expected more also in terms of leadership." pic.twitter.com/T7vJ5ViSWI

— CentreGoals. (@centregoals) October 25, 2024

 

I’m pretty sure Tuchel won’t be that ignorant when it comes to managing a National side compared to Club football and players can improve over the course of a few seasons so there’s no reason to think if CHO continues to play well he wouldn’t be given a shot if he deserves it.

 

WTF! James is trying to save his career and what does Enzo do stick the boot in about his Leadership.

 

It is a bit weird, not sure why he’s choosing to criticise him now in public, rather than talk to him privately if he wants more from him as a leader.

 

in an England shirt I’d agree. He hasn’t been good enough and often makes the wrong choice. It’s completely different for city though. He got 27 goals and 12 assists last season - that’s a player who clearly does make the right decisions. He often has lots of time to think on the ball when city dominate teams so much.

personally I think confidence is playing A big factor when he plays for England. It wouldn’t be the first talented player either, scholes never produced for England really