England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    he likes a 4231... perhaps something like this.

    ------------------------Kane
    ------Gordon---------Jude-------------Saka
    ----------------Angel---------Rice
    Shaw------Chilwell---Stones-----Trent


    If Jude can learn to play in a double pivot and sit deeper alla Pogba for France in 2018 it would really open space up for one of Foden and Palmer to start.
     
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  2. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #3302 Fireburn47, Oct 15, 2024
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  3. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Reece James is finished
     
  4. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    he likes a 3 at the back as well as a 4231

    not sure who he would prefer in terms of wide players and attacking mids
     
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  5. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Say, what!? Somebody warn Fireburn his account has been hacked into.
     
  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    The Sun suggest Mount, Dier and Loftus - Cheek could be recalled if Tuchel is hired.
     
  7. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    3 at the back could work especially in a 3421 alla Leverkusun. can Lewis play as a LWB?
    Again here I have Jude in 2 with Rice which may not work so you may have to push him up where Palmer is and bring in Angel and then just bring Palmer Grealish Foden off the bench. With Trent and Lewis providing the width you can really make use of playing two number 10s behind the striker when you sub Saka off.


    ----------------------------Kane
    ----------------Palmer-----------Saka
    Lewis----------Jude----------Rice---------Trent
    -----------Chilwell----Stones---Walker
     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I don’t think he will be under Tuchel. He will probably want him as first choice if he is fit.
     
  9. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    But he's never fit
     
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #3310 Fireburn47, Oct 15, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2024
    Possible England XI under Thomas Tuchel
    4-2-3-1: Pickford; James, Stones, Guehi, Colwill; Rice, Bellingham; Saka, Palmer, Gordon; Kane

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/thomas-tuchel-england-predicted-lineup-b2629592.html

    Some other Possible England XL’s
    Pickford, Guehi, Stones, Dier, Loftus - Cheek, Rice, Trent. Chilwell, Mount, Kane, Bellingham
    Pickford, Maguire, Stones, Dier, James, Mount, Rice, Chilwell. Bellingham, Kane, Foden

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/31039991/england-thomas-tuchel-line-up-manager-mason-mount/
     
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  11. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    I think pretty much any coach would have James as first choice if he's fit - it's just that huge "if". He may not be as outrageously creative as Trent going forward but he's still very effective, and he's levels better defensively.
     
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  12. MrBoombastic

    MrBoombastic Member

    England
    Nov 10, 2020
    What a phenomenal appointment, best we’ve made in years.

    Yes he isn’t English but he’s one of the most tactically astute managers out there. He’s won the Champions League FFS.

    Maybe a bit defensive at times but my word I am optimistic we’ve gone for the best possible candidate to end our trophy drought.
     
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  13. MrBoombastic

    MrBoombastic Member

    England
    Nov 10, 2020
    I think it’s pointless predicting lineups and based on absolutely nothing. Other than Kane who Tuchel signed, I don’t see many of those players playing. James is never fit so that ain’t happening, Chilwell never plays so that ain’t either, and no idea why they think Dier and Mount will get back in as neither of them are doing anything to get in the England side.

    It will probably be much of the existing squad with 1-2 changes, at least to start with.
     
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  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Doer was good for him at Bayern but now he is not playing he probably out of form. I don’t think he is like some players who can keep their form even as bench options. Dier has played 31 minutes all season so far.
     
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  15. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    I also don't know why everyone is so sure he'll play three at the back. We don't really have the midfielders to make a two-man midfield work. Tuchel had prime Kanté and prime Jorginho when he did it at Chelsea.
     
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  16. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    There are some. Gomes, Jones, Mainoo all could go with Rice. Even Bellinghamcould be used maybe. Might not work thriugh.
     
  17. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Maybe if you combined those four you might get something close to prime Kante.
     
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  18. LorneMarvello

    LorneMarvello Member+

    Jul 1, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    A panzer boy as england manager:mad:








    F#k it let's go:thumbsup:
     
  19. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    10 Japanese Bombers?
     
  20. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Better than Southgate for sure but I 'phenomenal' I don't think so, not the best appointment we could have made (& I am a Chelsea supporter) but there again throughout the whole of football history the useless 'suits' never do make the best appointment out there.
     
  21. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Could be worse. Could have appointment a manager like martinez and underachieve the way Portugal do
     
  22. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Could have been a lot worse for sure...........could have been a lot better too though, at least he has some resemblance of actual competence, lets face it Southgate and Carsley have absolute zero record of success in domestic football, in fact I say England has gotten to these 2 finals and won the U21 Euro's despite the managers and not because of them.

    I think they're both nice guys but somewhat 'lacking' in the managerial department.
     
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  23. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    They won the Euros in 2016 which is more trophies than we have won for a long time.
     
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  24. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I'm not knocking Portugal ffs. I'm saying martinez is terrible
     
  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I'm saying Portugal are underachieving now under martinez as with the talent they have they should be doing better. He's an awful coach
     

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