England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Southgate only wants him as a midfielder. He doesn’t see him a right back anymore.

 

Happy for Villa, at least they can hold their heads high out of the English sides. Was always going to be an uphill battle for West Ham given the opponent, felt they did fine but just beaten by a better side.

Bigger picture though is that we’ve just not been good enough across the board this season. Germany and Italy have simply outperformed us and deserve the extra spot for this year. It is what it is and fair play to them.The anti-England/PL brigade can have their laughs and fun. Beauty of sport is that it’s never done and there’s always another game/year to look ahead to. I’m certain we’ll be back next season, last time we had a shocker in Europe, we produced an all English final the following season in the CL back in 21 and a finalist in the EL.

 

Might sound crazy, but I actually don’t think Klopp leaving Liverpool is as catastrophic as being made out as well. Ever since Liverpool won the league back in 2020, they’ve been very up and down and prone to some real collapses in form.

There’s also no coincidence that they seem to have had an injury crisis every year since then. I think his style is just too reliant on physicality and winning duels, which tires the players out and makes them have these erratic runs of form and even seasons such as in 2021/2023. A move to a more possession based coach/a coach who seeks to control games with the ball could end up being a real positive and leave them less prone to burning out as they seemingly have done numerous times in recent years including right now.

 

These results will be long forgotten once the magic of the FA cup begins.

 

Europe review

Dortmund
7, Jamie Bynoe - Gittens - 7.14
14, Jadon Sancho - 6.40

Bayern
5, Eric Dier - 6.77
13, Harry Kane - 5.62

Arsenal
1, Declan Rice - 5.07
4, Bukayo Saka - 4.67
8, Ben White - 4.61
14, Eddie Nketiah - 3.09

Man City
3, Phil Foden - 5.74
4, Jack Grealish - 5.51
5, Kyle Walker - 5.46
13, John Stones - 5.05

Real Madrid
15, Jude Bellingham - 6.54

Lille
14, Angel Gomes - 5.63

Aston Villa
5, Ezri Konsa - 6.82
7, Ollie Watkins - 6.78
12, Morgan Rogers - 6”40

Liverpool
4, Trent Alexander - Arnold - 5.71
11, Curtis Jones - 5.08
13, Harvey Elliott - 4.20
14, Jayden Danns - 4.16
15, Joe Gomez - 4.13

West Ham
2, Jarrod Bowen - 7,04
6, James Ward - Prowse - 6.87
9, Aaron Cresswell - 6.71
13, Ben Johnson - 6.04

Penalties scored
Phil Foden (Manchester City)
Judd Bellingham (Real Madrid)
Angel Gomes (Lille)
Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa)

No ratings for Marseille, Rome or AC Milan

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...d-euro-2024-southgate-tottenham-b1152418.html
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/spurs-eric-dier-england-same-mistake-3012963

Formerly English eligible players topped the rankings in two matches today with Ademola Lookman and Jeremie Frimpong.

 

How did Lookman get the highest score when he only played for the last 10 mins and did nothing of note until I turned over to the West Ham game for the last few minutes.

 

That's what I mean when I said "it's never gonna happen under Southgate". It's exremely risky though to use up a midfield spot on what will effectively be an experiment. He'll very much need a backup plan and I'll bet he doesn't have one.

 

It’s an online vote so he might have got some block voting. It happens sometimes that players sometimes get high scores unjustly.

 

#CFC defender Levi Colwill now rated unlikely to return from toe injury in time to face #MCFC in #FACup semi final on Saturday, More here: https://t.co/X4YLmJNDwq

— Simon Johnson (@SJohnsonSport) April 18, 2024

Arsenal are looking at bringing in a striker and winger in the summer, with Newcastle's Sweden forward Alexander Isak, 24, and 22-year-old winger Michael Olise, who is at Crystal Palace, among their targets. (Guardian)

Liverpool and Paris St-Germain are considering a move for Chelseaand England defender Levi Colwill, 21. (GiveMeSport)

Spurs are also leading the race for Nottingham Forest midfielder Morgan Gibbs-White, 24, and are ready to make a move for the Englishman in the summer. (Football Insider)

Chelsea and Newcastle United are interested in Arsenal and England goalkeeper Aaron Ramsdale, 25. (CaughtOffside)

Newcastle are scouting Chelsea midfielder Conor Gallagher, 24, as they consider a summer move for the England international. (Chronicle)

Ivan Toney is hoping to earn more than Bruno Fernandes if he joins Manchester United this summer. (The Sun)

Bastian Schweinsteiger has admitted he wants to see Marcus Rashford play in a better team amid his struggles in Manchester United's latest disastrous season. (Daily Express)

Manchester United are benefitting from a significant financial windfall after Borussia Dortmund triggered another payment for Jadon Sancho by reaching the Champions League semi-final. (Daily Mirror)

Harry Kane warns England team-mate Jude Bellingham he's ready for Champions League "war". (Daily Mirrorj

Reece James has declared that his comeback is on and told his fans he will see them soon as he continues his injury rehabilitation. (Daily Mirror)

 

🔵 Pochettino: “Cole Palmer is far away from what we expected in the beginning... I need to be honest!”.

“His numbers a consequence of his job. He's performing in a very good way”. pic.twitter.com/G4Jntoy5iZ

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) April 19, 2024

#EFC #NFFC

'Yeah, both trained light today and came through it,' said Sean Dyche when asked for an update on Jarrod Branthwaite and Calvert-Lewin. 'We hope there's no reaction to that.'https://t.co/cckOHhGs0b

— Ben Dinnery (@BenDinnery) April 19, 2024

🚨 Ten Hag: “Sancho’s performances changing my mind? No. We know Jadon is a fantastic football player, so that is not a surprise for us…”.

“That is not the issue”.

“He made his contribution to the result for Dortmund. A great performance, for sure”. pic.twitter.com/QOQnjmflNI

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) April 19, 2024

 

Manchester United could be in line to receive an extra £3.4m for the loan of England winger Jadon Sancho to Borussia Dortmund if the German side reach the Champions League final. (Times - subscription required)

Erik ten Hag has opened the door for the return of Jadon Sancho. (The Sun)

Wolves are poised to play a 15-year-old schoolboy - right back Wes Okoduwa - against Arsenal on Saturday after he skipped a science lesson on Friday to prepare to face the Premier League title challengers. (Daily Mail)

Manchester United reportedly consider academy prodigy Shea Lacey ready to step up and become a more regular first-team presence after signing his first professional contract. (Daily Express)

 

Mengi, Burke, Barkley, Doughty, Morris and Clark start for Luton. Berry, Townsend, Shea, Woodrow and Johnson are on the bench.
Lewis-Potter start for Brentford. There are no English eligible players on the bench.

Bogle, Osborn, Arblaster and McAtee start for Sheffield United. Brooks, Foderingham, Archer and Holgate are on the bench.
Taylor starts for Burnley. Brownhill, Taylor and Rodriguez are on the bench.

Ivan Toney entirely absent.

 

That's a worry

 

🗣️Thomas Frank on the absence of Ivan Toney. #BrentfordFC

'Unfortunately, [the injury] has taken a bit longer than we thought. If it was a Play-Off Final, he would have played, but it isn’t; it’s one of five games. We want to give him the best chance to get to be 100 per cent…

— Ben Dinnery (@BenDinnery) April 20, 2024

 

Not when you've got Solanke waiting in the wings

 

I feel like that if Toney was unavailable Southgate might well just take Kane and Watkins and have Bowen, Gordon, Palmer or Rashford as the back up to those. It’s a concern that he was on the bench last week but now this week is not fit enough even for the bench.

 

I think at the very least Solanke would be in the provisional squad. If it's 23 then yeah it's gonna be just Kane and Watkins, but a 26-man squad in which Toney wasn't fit, I think Solanke would have a good chance, more so if Southgate gets a look at him up close first. He did say that he considered calling him for the last squad so he's in his thinking.

 

Walker, Stones, Foden and Grealish start for Manchester City. Lewis is on the bench.
Chalobah, Gallagher, Palmer and Madueke start for Chelsea. Sterling, Bettinelli , Chukwuemeka, Chilwell and Gilchrist are on the bench.

 

Poch fancies Madueke against City's highline no doubt.

 

Mason Mount missing from United’s traveling squad due to injury.

— UnitedMuppetiers (@Muppetiers) April 20, 2024

Tuchel well and truly burnt him to the ground. This could be Saka's future if Arteta isn't careful.

 

I think through compared to Saka Mount might habe a weaker body. Saka might well be closer to some of those players who play a lot but whose body can cope.

And Lampard played him just as much as Tuchel.

Man United through do get a lot of training injuries. Some teams seem to get mostly in match injuries while others are full of training injuires.

And the problem is saying players are getting injured for over playing is not in fashion at the moment. People think being played 300k a week means you can do 70 matches a year without an issue.

 

********ing hell Jackson is useless

 

🚨🔴 Harry Maguire is the only centre back fit and available for Man United vs Coventry.

↪️⛔️ Varane, Lisandro Martínez, Evans Victor Lindelof and Willy Kambwala are all out injured.

Understand Erik ten Hag had to test Casemiro as CB with Maguire as emergency solution. 🇧🇷 pic.twitter.com/cypml3J5EI

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) April 20, 2024

 

Could be that. Mount definitely plays in a more physically demanding way than Saka so that doesn't help. Regardless though I think it's quite demonstrative of how playing so many minutes in multiple seasons on the bounce can destroy a body. He had a very good injury record but now can't keep fit. The two things line up pretty well.

 

That's bonkers. You have to wonder if like Chelsea there's a structural issue there.