England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Dec 12, 2022.

  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Southgate only wants him as a midfielder. He doesn’t see him a right back anymore.
     
  2. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    Happy for Villa, at least they can hold their heads high out of the English sides. Was always going to be an uphill battle for West Ham given the opponent, felt they did fine but just beaten by a better side.

    Bigger picture though is that we’ve just not been good enough across the board this season. Germany and Italy have simply outperformed us and deserve the extra spot for this year. It is what it is and fair play to them.The anti-England/PL brigade can have their laughs and fun. Beauty of sport is that it’s never done and there’s always another game/year to look ahead to. I’m certain we’ll be back next season, last time we had a shocker in Europe, we produced an all English final the following season in the CL back in 21 and a finalist in the EL.
     
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  3. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    Might sound crazy, but I actually don’t think Klopp leaving Liverpool is as catastrophic as being made out as well. Ever since Liverpool won the league back in 2020, they’ve been very up and down and prone to some real collapses in form.

    There’s also no coincidence that they seem to have had an injury crisis every year since then. I think his style is just too reliant on physicality and winning duels, which tires the players out and makes them have these erratic runs of form and even seasons such as in 2021/2023. A move to a more possession based coach/a coach who seeks to control games with the ball could end up being a real positive and leave them less prone to burning out as they seemingly have done numerous times in recent years including right now.
     
  4. Port Vale Fan

    Port Vale Fan Member

    May 30, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    These results will be long forgotten once the magic of the FA cup begins.
     
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  5. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Europe review

    Dortmund
    7, Jamie Bynoe - Gittens - 7.14
    14, Jadon Sancho - 6.40

    Bayern
    5, Eric Dier - 6.77
    13, Harry Kane - 5.62

    Arsenal
    1, Declan Rice - 5.07
    4, Bukayo Saka - 4.67
    8, Ben White - 4.61
    14, Eddie Nketiah - 3.09

    Man City
    3, Phil Foden - 5.74
    4, Jack Grealish - 5.51
    5, Kyle Walker - 5.46
    13, John Stones - 5.05

    Real Madrid
    15, Jude Bellingham - 6.54

    Lille
    14, Angel Gomes - 5.63

    Aston Villa
    5, Ezri Konsa - 6.82
    7, Ollie Watkins - 6.78
    12, Morgan Rogers - 6”40

    Liverpool
    4, Trent Alexander - Arnold - 5.71
    11, Curtis Jones - 5.08
    13, Harvey Elliott - 4.20
    14, Jayden Danns - 4.16
    15, Joe Gomez - 4.13

    West Ham
    2, Jarrod Bowen - 7,04
    6, James Ward - Prowse - 6.87
    9, Aaron Cresswell - 6.71
    13, Ben Johnson - 6.04

    Penalties scored
    Phil Foden (Manchester City)
    Judd Bellingham (Real Madrid)
    Angel Gomes (Lille)
    Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa)

    No ratings for Marseille, Rome or AC Milan

    https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...d-euro-2024-southgate-tottenham-b1152418.html
    https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/spurs-eric-dier-england-same-mistake-3012963

    Formerly English eligible players topped the rankings in two matches today with Ademola Lookman and Jeremie Frimpong.
     
  6. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    How did Lookman get the highest score when he only played for the last 10 mins and did nothing of note until I turned over to the West Ham game for the last few minutes.
     
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  7. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    That's what I mean when I said "it's never gonna happen under Southgate". It's exremely risky though to use up a midfield spot on what will effectively be an experiment. He'll very much need a backup plan and I'll bet he doesn't have one.
     
  8. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It’s an online vote so he might have got some block voting. It happens sometimes that players sometimes get high scores unjustly.
     
  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


    Arsenal are looking at bringing in a striker and winger in the summer, with Newcastle's Sweden forward Alexander Isak, 24, and 22-year-old winger Michael Olise, who is at Crystal Palace, among their targets. (Guardian)

    Liverpool and Paris St-Germain are considering a move for Chelseaand England defender Levi Colwill, 21. (GiveMeSport)

    Spurs are also leading the race for Nottingham Forest midfielder Morgan Gibbs-White, 24, and are ready to make a move for the Englishman in the summer. (Football Insider)

    Chelsea and Newcastle United are interested in Arsenal and England goalkeeper Aaron Ramsdale, 25. (CaughtOffside)

    Newcastle are scouting Chelsea midfielder Conor Gallagher, 24, as they consider a summer move for the England international. (Chronicle)

    Ivan Toney is hoping to earn more than Bruno Fernandes if he joins Manchester United this summer. (The Sun)

    Bastian Schweinsteiger has admitted he wants to see Marcus Rashford play in a better team amid his struggles in Manchester United's latest disastrous season. (Daily Express)

    Manchester United are benefitting from a significant financial windfall after Borussia Dortmund triggered another payment for Jadon Sancho by reaching the Champions League semi-final. (Daily Mirror)

    Harry Kane warns England team-mate Jude Bellingham he's ready for Champions League "war". (Daily Mirrorj

    Reece James has declared that his comeback is on and told his fans he will see them soon as he continues his injury rehabilitation. (Daily Mirror)
     
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021


     
  11. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Manchester United could be in line to receive an extra £3.4m for the loan of England winger Jadon Sancho to Borussia Dortmund if the German side reach the Champions League final. (Times - subscription required)

    Erik ten Hag has opened the door for the return of Jadon Sancho. (The Sun)

    Wolves are poised to play a 15-year-old schoolboy - right back Wes Okoduwa - against Arsenal on Saturday after he skipped a science lesson on Friday to prepare to face the Premier League title challengers. (Daily Mail)

    Manchester United reportedly consider academy prodigy Shea Lacey ready to step up and become a more regular first-team presence after signing his first professional contract. (Daily Express)
     
  12. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Mengi, Burke, Barkley, Doughty, Morris and Clark start for Luton. Berry, Townsend, Shea, Woodrow and Johnson are on the bench.
    Lewis-Potter start for Brentford. There are no English eligible players on the bench.

    Bogle, Osborn, Arblaster and McAtee start for Sheffield United. Brooks, Foderingham, Archer and Holgate are on the bench.
    Taylor starts for Burnley. Brownhill, Taylor and Rodriguez are on the bench.

    Ivan Toney entirely absent.
     
  13. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    That's a worry
     
  14. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
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  15. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Not when you've got Solanke waiting in the wings ;)
     
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  16. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I feel like that if Toney was unavailable Southgate might well just take Kane and Watkins and have Bowen, Gordon, Palmer or Rashford as the back up to those. It’s a concern that he was on the bench last week but now this week is not fit enough even for the bench.
     
  17. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    I think at the very least Solanke would be in the provisional squad. If it's 23 then yeah it's gonna be just Kane and Watkins, but a 26-man squad in which Toney wasn't fit, I think Solanke would have a good chance, more so if Southgate gets a look at him up close first. He did say that he considered calling him for the last squad so he's in his thinking.
     
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  18. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Walker, Stones, Foden and Grealish start for Manchester City. Lewis is on the bench.
    Chalobah, Gallagher, Palmer and Madueke start for Chelsea. Sterling, Bettinelli , Chukwuemeka, Chilwell and Gilchrist are on the bench.
     
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  19. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Poch fancies Madueke against City's highline no doubt.
     
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  20. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain

    Tuchel well and truly burnt him to the ground. This could be Saka's future if Arteta isn't careful.
     
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  21. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #15796 Fireburn47, Apr 20, 2024
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2024
    I think through compared to Saka Mount might habe a weaker body. Saka might well be closer to some of those players who play a lot but whose body can cope.

    And Lampard played him just as much as Tuchel.

    Man United through do get a lot of training injuries. Some teams seem to get mostly in match injuries while others are full of training injuires.

    And the problem is saying players are getting injured for over playing is not in fashion at the moment. People think being played 300k a week means you can do 70 matches a year without an issue.
     
  22. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    ********ing hell Jackson is useless
     
  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
     
  24. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Could be that. Mount definitely plays in a more physically demanding way than Saka so that doesn't help. Regardless though I think it's quite demonstrative of how playing so many minutes in multiple seasons on the bounce can destroy a body. He had a very good injury record but now can't keep fit. The two things line up pretty well.
     
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  25. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    That's bonkers. You have to wonder if like Chelsea there's a structural issue there.
     
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