Quality. Just pure quality. The Ugly Englander. My favorite quote, however, is: Wow, I don't think the U.S. even has soccer-related laws. Cheers, BilFish
Americans should be careful of their downcasting eyes. After all, we're the country with a number of baseball and football stadiums that house their own jail cells.
Its amazing what two goals in injury time from the French can do to the English. They still haven't gotten over the 100 years war (or should I say 700 years war)
I don't think history has anything to do with it. It's just a people in love with their national soccer team, and you have to admit that was a pretty horrific game to watch from an England perspective. If you traded England with the US and France with Mexico and put it in a WC qualifier, it would take me MONTHS to get over a game like that.
It wasn't very long ago that I watched on TV as a crowd of celebrants on Larimer St. chanted, "Flip the car," until it happened. Growing up in NY I remember the fights that would break out between the Islander and the Ranger fans at the Garden. That was even part of the draw to those games. I even recall going out to Nassau once for an Islanders game, and some dumb schmuck made the mistake of wearing a Rangers jersey. The Islanders weren't even playing the Rangers. It didn't go well for him. I understand that hooliganism has, at times, taken this sort of crap to a new level, but I don't understand why our press tends to think of it as unique to soccer.
NBC News has video of the riot. It didn't look like it was all that crazy, because the police were chasing everybody away.
i don't think you should be so fast to compare hooliganism in europe (or in south or central america) with ny rangers vs. islanders, basketball fans in detroit or some drunken college kids who won a bowl game...it is not "unique" to soccer per se as a sport itself, football (soccer) is the only sports that matters that much to the most of population in the world
I am trying to revive this passion, this hatred that NYR and Icelanders supporters have for one another. Up the Rangers!! http://www.outsidethegarden.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9477 and http://www.outsidethegarden.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9476
And who can forget the classiness of my fellow Rangers fans who were allegedly rocking the ambulance that contained former-Islander Pat LaFontaine, after he received one (the first?) of his 10,000 concussions. (no, I was not one of those Rangers fans
I hope your typewriter died before you were able to add: "But, still, it's pretty amazing that anyone would go out after a game and start beating up other people and things over this crap. That's not right." Really, I hope so. I don't defend or appreciate this behavior —or understand it— in any country. Cheers, BilFish