England permit rule favors the MLS

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by Frank Cunha, Oct 13, 2003.

  1. Frank Cunha

    Frank Cunha New Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    UNION TOWNSHIP, NJ
    The permit rule in England is a good thing for the MLS
    can you imagine if the rule was not in effect, we had more to lose, all our young talent would be gone from the MLS, any of the 10 keepers can play in the Premier, then players like Gaven, Convey, Beardsley, Bocanegra to mention a few would be in England by now
     
  2. No. 10

    No. 10 New Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    Red Bank, NJ
    All of whom would not see the light of day in a EP Match.
     
  3. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    I think Beardsley was born in England. Plus he's retired by now! :D
     
  4. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    I disagree with you. I think MLS needs international exposure. We still need to should USA and the world that we have a league and exposing our players to the top european leagues is excellent.
     
  5. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    I disagree with you. I think MLS needs international exposure. We still need to show USA and the world that we have a league and exposing our players to the top European leagues is excellent.
     
  6. Frank Cunha

    Frank Cunha New Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    UNION TOWNSHIP, NJ
    without the names, less fans will attend the games, you got have a good product, and right know the MLS got it, like it or not, its only getting better.
    MLS teams just not marketing their players enough.
     
  7. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Re: Re: England permit rule favors the MLS

    I agree but I think this is happening as we speak, but it will happen gradually as a result of the permit rule.

    We cant afford to lose all of our talent at once, the quality of the league would go right down the tubes..

    Losing 1 or 2 per year to Europe helps with exposure without hurting the quality..

    It is perfect trhe way it is now..
     
  8. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    weeeeell, convey would have started within two weeks of getting a permit (said hoddle) and bocanegra could start now for several teams
     
  9. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Re: Re: England permit rule favors the MLS

    Plus it brings in much needed funds for American soccer. As you say, it's about right at the moment.

    It's also worth pointing out that some of the players mentioned wouldn't necesarily have to start every week in EPL teams. They may go to 1st division ones. I'm not saying that's all they're good enough for - that's another argument altogether - I'm simply saying that they wouldn't have to start for EPL teams for there to be a substantial difference between their wages in MLS and their wages in England. With the WP rules the point is moot.
     
  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Any of the 10 keepers? Riiiiiight. Even Timmy Howard will get benched before long. As much as I can't stand Bartez, he's gonna be back in goal soon.
     
  11. Frank Cunha

    Frank Cunha New Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    UNION TOWNSHIP, NJ
    I would trade any for the argentinian Bossio, what rip off
     
  12. CrewToon

    CrewToon Member

    Jun 13, 1999
    Greenbrier Farm
    Re: Re: England permit rule favors the MLS

    But he's still ugly! :D
     
  13. MrZedd

    MrZedd New Member

    Jul 18, 2003
    whaaa?

    Even a Wolves match?
     
  14. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Could Hoddle's (lack of) expertise for player evaluation be the reason why he was fired?
     
  15. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Re: Re: England permit rule favors the MLS

    and your basing this on what? the fact that Tim Howard is amongst the highest rated keepers as far as shutouts? The fact that Bartez will probably league ManU to get regular paying time? Just ask SAF, he has given nothing but glowing reports for Tim....

    I'll chalk your post up as mindless trolling...
     
  16. Matteo

    Matteo New Member

    Jul 21, 1999
    Re: whaaa?

    maybe, if they learn to skate
     
  17. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Re: Re: Re: England permit rule favors the MLS

    off-topic rant...

    Why do so many people in the US refer to goalkeepers' shut-outs as if they are such a significant stat? This isn't baseball. A team collectively records a shut-out. To cite shut-outs in comparing goalkeepers is like citing Isaiah Kacyvinski's one shut-out to Brian Urlacher's 0 shut-outs as a relavent factor in determining who's the better linebacker. Face it, in a couple of Timmy's shut-outs Stephen Hawking could have kept a clean sheet.

    off-topic ran over
     
  18. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Re: Re: Re: Re: England permit rule favors the MLS


    doesn't change the fact that barthez ain't gettin' back in front of timmy
     
  19. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    that's great but his point had nothing to do with hoddle
     
  20. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: England permit rule favors the MLS

    That may be correct but I think that Roy Carroll is in with a shout. I saw Howard's attempt on the cross against Stuttgart and he looked pretty inept to be honest.

    Apart from that and one or two other moments he's been good but, as has been observed, his defense and midfield is highly effective most of the time too so it's a little difficult to tell.
     
  21. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    You said "convey would have started within two weeks of getting a permit (said hoddle)".
     
  22. Wolves_67

    Wolves_67 Member

    Oct 27, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: whaaa?

    Hey!! :(
     
  23. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    and HE said none of those players would get anywhere near an EPL lineup - i never said convey should start for spurs, i said he would have... which would certainly represent near
     

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