England needs a trophy

Discussion in 'England' started by Wildman262, Jun 11, 2004.

  1. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Hi Lads. I’ve been on an extended worldwide holiday. Rio is always nice and the ladies and beach footie are a sight to be holden. I’ve had a chance to play a little beach footie with Cantona (supplied him with a few goals) and some keep ups against Romario. That was quite fun. Romairo is brilliant at the game, but I managed not to embarrass myself. The Brazilian ladies are the most beautiful in the world.

    So here we are at the start of the European Cup. I see France winning the group. England is long over due to show that they belong on the world stage. It’s one thing to say that you are a top footballing nation, but when you don’t have the trophies or finals appearances, it makes for thin gruel. I don’t want to pull out all the old data to back this up, but I think we can all agree that England has not been in the top tier. It’s time for them to step up and prove it with a trophy. You can’t argue that logic.

    I will catch a few of the games from the comfort of my cabana.
     
  2. Mobile

    Mobile New Member

    Jul 29, 2002
    Melbourne
    Nah - that stuff with Romario etc is trying a little bit too hard. It could have been a legendary return from you Wildman but that's just a bit too obvious.
     
  3. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Member

    Sep 20, 2003
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    **** off Wildman, your not wanted around here.
     
  4. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Mike would you consider England among the worlds best if they do not make it into the semis of the European Cup? England is under pressure to deliver SOMETHING other than a great league in the Premiership. It's time for England to stop talking about having great players and a good team , and actually produce one that delivers results on the pitch with a trophy. A trophy from 40 years ago means nothing. For heavens sake, they have not even played in a final in 40 years.

    Don't worry. I probably won't stay past the tournament. I have too much beach footy in me bones, to sit in front of a computer and point out the obvious.
     
  5. TAKK

    TAKK New Member

    Jan 28, 2004
    Westchester, NY
    The obvious is that I have followed England for 30 years and the only true center mid I have ever seen is Gazza. That of course is when they came closest in 90.
    Again, a lot of good workers, flank players, and some decent attacking mids, but as usual no true playmaker.
    One playmaker puts this team at the top. Why can't England produce one with their resources?
    Why do the English always celebrate players as WC when they are not?
    This is an excellen team, but how can they win without a playmaker?
    Just won't happen.

    Oh well, I'll be rooting for them, but not expecting a result.
     
  6. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    England rely on the midfield as a whole to create chances rather than one hyper-ego.

    If this thread gets out of hand I'm closing it.
     
  7. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    Nah, we're okay mate - we've got Wildman to guide us.

    In fact, he should call up SGE and give some pointers.
    His vast knowledge and expierence from his playing days at the Cosmos with Pele et al is streets ahead of McClaren.
     
  8. Pazarius

    Pazarius New Member

    Jan 10, 2004
    England
    I think you've got this wrong. While we don't have one player you can point to and say 'that is our playmaker', Lampard, Scholes, Beckham can all do this to some extent, and with those players combined we have enough playmaking ability in the side.

    However all our midfield players want to play in the centre. England need a Cristiano Ronaldo type player, who is going to stay wide and dribble past defenders. That's what we're lacking most IMHO.

    Perhaps because no-one agrees on the definition of 'world-class'?
     
  9. MIGkiller

    MIGkiller Member+

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    May 9, 2003
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Romario and co. would never play beach footie with a nobody like you, Wildman.
     
  10. its called football

    its called football New Member

    May 18, 2004
    LA, for now
    Exactly what I was thinking about earlier. I was wondering why the "class of 92" Man U youth team that went on to form a core for the Treble in 1999 couldn't reproduce for England, and was thinking it may be the lack of a Giggs type dribbler, who would scare a defence. I'm hoping that Rooney's willingness to run at centre backs my right this balance this summer. But I think the lack of true wingers is a real weakness to the English game at the moment. The wide players who impress in the Premier League, Duff, Reyes (when he plays there), Ronaldo, Giggs, Pires, Lunberg just from the big three, are all foreign.
     
  11. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Agreed. Gazza was the best.
     
  12. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Prenn relax. I have not said anything offensive. It's all about the National Team.
     
  13. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Clan, I've had some well reasoned posts in the past backed by facts and statistics. There was no conjecture. Everything was 100% fact.
     
  14. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Mig you'd be surprised guv. It's all in whom you know.
     
  15. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
  16. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Ah, Wildman, you dreary old rapist. I did wonder how long the Skippersnack persona would sate your masochistic need for the brutality that your original incarnation brought you. So how's the hunt for Internet p*ssy going? Have you actually murdered anyone yet? Or are you still at the picture wall/continuous masturbation stage of your descent into sex-starved madness?
     
  17. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Actually, I've always attracted the ladies like sugar attracts ants. I guess I've always had that magnetism. The beaches in Rio are incredible and ladies still go for this old footie player.

    Who in the world is Skippersnack? He sounds like a loveable bloke.
     
  18. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    Lads, a trophy is proof. Germany and Brazil have them by the buckets. The Argies, the French, Danes, Italians, they all have them. You must have a trophy and you must play in a final for a chance at one. The Belgians, the Czecks, the Dutch have all played in finals. There are others. I can pull out the data if I must.
     
  19. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    We have one you prat.
     
  20. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
     
  21. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    Nice one.
     
  22. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    as do ORANJE and the czechs... why does anyone still respond to this clown?
     
  23. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    I really don't know :confused:
     
  24. Wildman262

    Wildman262 New Member

    Oct 5, 2001
    The better team will win. Agreed?
     
  25. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Member

    Sep 20, 2003
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    No not agreed. We stopped France from creating any good chances. Heskey won France the game with his sh1teness.
     

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