That's now the new speculation concerning where WC 2018 would go. Some people have already assumed that it would go to Europe already, while others speculate that Oceania would get it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3740851.stm http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=19&art_id=qw1085301541294S163&set_id=6
JJ Mindset, England could only do this by being dishonourable and trying to jump the queue. FWIW - there are 6 FIFA Continental Confederations (UEFA, CAF, CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, AFC AND OCEANIA). Since FIFA (Septic Bladder) announced that FIFA was runninf a "Continental Rotation System for WC Hosting" the sequence in any logical & equitable allocation (keeping in mind where the WC has been held recently and is going to be held from hereon) would be: 2006 - UEFA - Germany (allocated) 2010 - CAF - South Africa (allocated) 2014 - CONMEBOL - Brazil (allocated) 2018 - Why would this be England / UEFA when FRANCE 1998 has just recently been held in UEFA and GERMANY 2006 is about to be held in UEFA ??? 2022 - CONCACAF - my guess USA or Mexico (previous USA 1994 !!) 2026 - AFC - my guess China - (previous Japan/Korea 2002 !!!) The only way England / UEFA can put their hands up for 2018 is in the usual historically dishonourable and dispicable FIFA fashion of shafting the weakest confederation, OCEANIA. Shame England, shame David Will (Scotland), shame Brithish government Sports minister ! Don't you all feel a little queasy about this dishonourable journey you're embarked upon ??? I for one hope that this news gets wide publicity in my region (OCEANIA) over the next 60-80 days as it will cause London's 2012 Olympics bid some pain. I will hope that Paris gets the votes of the IOC members in this region.
Andy, what you say is logical, but IMO it's going to go to England in 2018 before it will go to Oceania. Do you really expect Europe, the continent that sends almost half of the teams to the finals, to be content with hosting it once every 24 years? Not saying that's it's fair, but it's just the way things are right now. Hopefully Australia can get into the Finals and play well in them and show the world that Oceania and Australia deserves to host the cup. I would love to go to Australia for the Cup and I think they would do very well with it. However they might not get it as early as they are thinking.
What's equitable about having Oceania host as often as Europe? How many countries in Oceania are capable of hosting? The bottom line is that the most likely way this is going to work is a rotation of The Americas, Europe and The Rest of the World.
M, It's hardly a continental rotation, when you just pretend one of them doesn't exist and hope they'll go away, is it ? Seems there's no honour among thieves, England, David H Will & UEFA !!! What a bunch of wankers they are.
Good none answers, so I'll ask you again. Do you think Oceania should host as often as Europe? How many countries in Oceania are capable of hosting?
M, You really don't get where I'm coming from, do you? Do not the words principle, ethics, honesty, equity, inclusion, world, mean anything to you wrt this matter ? In answer to your two questions above: (1) Yes, until there's a conscious, honest and up-front change to the so-called "FIFA continental rotation system" of determining which continent gets to host the WC Finals. Q&A for you M !!! Q: When's a rotation not a rotation ? A: When one (read England & UEFA) doesn't actually want to "rotate" through all the candidates (read OCEANIA) !!!! Until then : A rotation is an orderly continuous movement in a set order or sequence, usually in a circular motion (eg the way the earth rotates wrt the sun). As to-date there's 6 continents in FIFA's statutes, one cannot bounce back & forth out of order in a rotation (eg the sun does not rise on Germany and then on America and then back to England, no matter even if the Pommies think the sun shines out of their arses wrt international football). England cannot under anyone's vocabulary say that they are complying with "FIFA's continental rotational system" until 2030 when it's UEFA's turn again, unless of course England want to break the rotation AND jump the queue. I've always looked to England being honest & ethical, but this has really shown me what they really are like (they are about as angelic as the old Mrs Septic Bladder and her brood of petty thieves). England deserves to be roundly and loudly condemned, even for thinking they could get away with such a low act. Main-chancers, hey ??? (2) We all know the answer to this, as it's well documented, one - Australia. This doesn't invalidate the OCEANIA place as a full FIFA continental confederation. Hey, I've not hidden my allegiance anywhere on these MB's. I'd have thought that the powers-to-be in FIFA would at least let the rotation finish ONE ROTATION (as it's already commenced and half-way through) before it was reviewed / changed. Bugger the rest of the world, that'd be too long for the mendicants of England & UEFA. End of rant.
We havent even lodged any kind of bid yet you utter idiot.. That chip on your convict shoulder is massive.
Sinner, All the convicts are still in the old dart, mate. Evidence is there for all to see in the news !
everyone knows im from england you clown... Ive stated that pretty clearly. You aint fit to host a world cup.. what are you gonna do?? host the games in your cricket stadiums? dont make me laugh.
Sinner, The cricket stadia are where we thrash the pommies at cricket !!!! You aint fit to play cricket... We do have football stadia, but you wouldn't know about that, might spoil your argument about AUS not being able to host the FIFA WC. You do know that the new Wembley Stadium, the crown jewel being discussed in this "English non-bid" is being built by an Aussie company, based on the design of Stadium Australia ?
cricket results arent the slightest bit relevant to hosting a football world cup. Nobody wants to play a big football tournament in big bowl stadiums designed for cricket and aussie rules football. oh yeah ,why dont you prove it eh We've already got all the other stadiums in place .... stadiums designed for football and football fans...
You were the one that brought cricket (injudiciously) into this thread. Why should I ? Anything I say won't change anyone's mind on this, least alone your small closed one. BTW I'm mortified by your giving me a bad rep point. Just shows how petty you can be. :
There's no way Europe would let more than 12 years pass without seeing a world cup here again. It's tough titties for the Aussies who are really the only team in Oceana worth a ********, it's not even the number 1 sport there. Don't complain, count your blessings that one day you may hold the biggest sporting event in the world even though you don't deserve it.
You still upset about us taking your (no sorry its ours now isn't it) trophy away from you in the Telsta dome back in November? Or more upset that you couldn't get a job behind a bar in London with the rest of your countrymen, so don't get to watch any top class footy? Or is it the fact that your ancestors got caught stealling and exiled? or is it that your fed up with sheep? It is simply ridiculous to expect that Oceana should get the World Cup as Often as Europe and South America. These two continents are still clearly the world leaders. Asia's massive fan base, and the spread in North America are also both genuine contenders, and Africa provides plenty of top players and teams, despite her infrastructuarl problems. However, Oceana has only one genuine team, and Rugby (both codes) Aussie rules and Cricket will always be bigger there. I agree it's unfair, but it is also unfair to continually expect European and South American fans to travel the width of the World to watch their teams.
Prenn, And you're not biased in anyway on this, hey ?? "Don't complain, count your blessings that one day you may hold the biggest sporting event in the world even though you don't deserve it." Prenn, the Olympics is "the biggest sporting event in the world" in every metric possible, not the FIFA Football World Cup. As football's the only sport the pomms are half-decent at, then London doesn't deserve the Olympics in 2012. Same argument, mate.
most of your main stadiums are cricket stadiums so thats why I brought it up. so you aint got any proof of stadia that is suitable for world cup games??? thought so.
And rant is was... Sooner or later FIFA is going to realize what a crock a straight rotation through confederations is. Maybe this'll happen before Australia host, maybe after. But such a system simply defies reality. There is no way in hell that Oceania (aka Australia) is going to host as often as Europe. And who is buggering the rest of the world? What I proposed was three way rotation, namely The Americas, Europe and The Rest of the World. In other words, the Rest of the World, which I was supposedly buggering, would get every third World Cup. Some buggering
You seem fixated by "you pomms". Do you really think the rest of Europe is going to accept a rotation whereby Australia hosts as often as all of Europe?
M, They'll act just like the pommies, in a self-serving fashion. I maybe hot under the collar but I'm not dumb. What is it that UEFA & CONMEBOL show all the time to the rest of the world ? Might is Right ? In my part of the world there's a saying "every dog will have its day". I await the time I can figuratively lift my leg up to ......
You might have had a point if the FA had gone around saying "WOULDN'T ROTATING THE WORLD CUP BETWEEN ALL 6 CONFEDERATIONS BE A SUPERFANTASTIC IDEA?!?!?!?!" But they didn't, so why should they feel constrained by the policy? It's not part of the statutes its just a conventionm a convention that will most likely be broken. Rather than have a go at the English, have a go at Blatter or your own inept association.