England : Germany Friendly Game/Post Game thread [R]

Never saw so many excuses in my life.

Dude, I was rooting for England last night and what I saw was a team who were simply beaten! Not by much, but they were beaten.

And you with all your excuses now forces me to defend Germany.

BTW, Germany were missing, Frings, Klose, Ballack, Podolski, and Jansen. Philipp Lahm was playing out of position and was arguably Man of the Match.

So, arguably, Germany's "B" team beat England's "B" team.

Instead of making excuses, you need to be asking yourself why England dumped Eriksson for an obvious freakin' idiot like "Second Choice" Steve McClaren.

Had he put Shaun Wright-Phillips on at halftime and not taken Joe Cole out, England may very well have won the match.

I thought Joe Cole was England's best offensive threat before SWP came on the pitch.

Again, I thought England were beaten, but not by that much.

The other thing you guys need to look at is the defense.

With the exception of Micah Richards, I thought England's defense was complete shit last night.

If I were Steve McClaren and the FA, I'd be doing anything I could to get Jamie Carragher to change his mind and put the England shirt on once again.

Even if it means benching John Terry or the horribly overrated Rio Ferdinand.

 

If you want to argue the quality of the teams then englands accumilative transfer fee would be almost double bayern munich and money does show the quality because price is the players face in the transfer market and value to a team
Currency english pound
Gerrard £30 million+
Rooney £30 million+
Ferdinand £10 million +
Terry £10 million+
Richards £20 million
Darren bent £16 million
Carrick £18million
Hargreaves £18million
Walcot £12 million
Joe Cole £15million+
Lampard £15 million+
Asley cole £15 million+
Owen 15.8 million

Just to name a few

 

I said almost the exact same thing to some guys in the pub last night who said England were "unlucky..."

 

Yes you should have won. You did not. But thank God between a "should have" and a "won" is a game of football to play. And that you think Panders stunner was a freak shows that you dont really know him. He is well known for his shooting technique and is strong standards. But well maybe this happened because the English defenders had other things in mind. Maybe they were still discussing about wether Gerrard or Lampard should play.

 

Repped.

 

darren bent went for more money than thierry henry. Going by your logic, bent>henry.

Over-paid does not equal more talented.

Hey, if you want to take solace in how much your players cost, by all means, go ahead. In the meantime, we would rather take something else. what is that called. god, why can't I remember it. Oh yeah, WINS AND TITLES!!!!!

England-proud sponsor of under-achieving and over-paying players.

Actually, I wouldn't call England under-achieving. They are what they are. a second tier team both in mental and technical abilities propped up by a rabid media and fans dreaming of the glory days of 1966.

 

Obviously, the transfer fees of English players don't solely reflect their quality but also the market itself. The English league is the richest in the world and English players of sufficient quality are perhaps not all that numerous.

In any case, if one wants to compare the quality of two _teams_ one should look first at their competitive performances and results.

 

Ouch. But can't argue against it......

 

I think the most valuable players missing for England were just Gerrard
and Rooney, the rest is so overrated ...
Concerning the game, England could have equalize or win it but Germany could have increase the lead without playing well
It's just a friendly but a good boost for the next qualifiers despite the injuries
I hope some of our injured players could be back in time
Like some of the posters I think Friedrich is actually disapointing, Trochowski and Odonkor don't have the level for the national team at the moment and Hilbert doesn't play as good than with his club
Expect an improvement from him and from Pander about his defensive game (Jansen is better actually ) otherwise I like his set pieces and his runs forward
and this goal WOWWWWW

 

You should just stop now. Or do you enjoy digging that hole??

 

Best argument ever.

 

I agree.

And I don't think England will ever win anything with Gerrard AND Lampard in midfield.

Sit Lampard's ass down and let Gerrard run the show.

I think England SHOULD have equalized, but they were inept in front of the net. I think a combination of Low deciding to defend the lead far too early and the introduction of Shaun Wright-Phillips into the match is how England got back into it.

Before that, as I said in another post, I was rooting for England, but I thought Germany were in total control.

Oh yeah. Low knows he has even more weapons now.

Agree on Friedrich, Trochowski and Odonkor. I think Hilbert was just nervous. I think Low will give him some more appearances to work him in.

Jansen is going to have a hard time holding off Pander. I am in no way a Schalke fan, but if Pander can stay healthy, he is going to be very hard to keep out of the Germany starting 11.

 

Hey, BVB is my team, I've lived here most of my adult life, but I've never made it a secret that in international football after the USA, I prefer England.

But as you can see, I'm as truthful about them as I am about BVB......

 

Oh man!! I so wanted to rep that, but I got:

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to crismerz09 again"

 

I personally thought Friedrich played pretty well last night, not people are sayig he was disappointing? He was probably the worst defender out there for us, but I thogut he played well nonetheless.

 

He looked like he should be on this show:




As for the game...yet one more reason for England fans to finally realize that this generation of players is not going to get them a World Cup title any time soon.

Germany played a really weak lineup and still won. Once Germany were down 1-0 I pretty much resigned the game to defeat. How is this crew of no-names going to score one goal, let alone two? But then I guess I didn't really know how terrible England's goaltender was. That guy that was in there in the first half sucks way worse than Lehmann sucks.

 

Those eg bent over henry are the exceptions that prove the rule

There will be more exceptions ofcourse but in general Money = Quality

 

That was quite funny.

 

No. It does not.

 

Haha!England's goal was a good one but Germany's second goal was a screamer! It's hard to understand how Engalnd, a squad with so much talent fires blanks so very often. If they come up empty with the two up coming Euro qualifying matches'. I think Mac will be a good as done! Some of the English players' might be good as done as well!

 

You've apparently never compared the Red Light Districts of Amsterdam or Hamburg to the ones in Caracas, Venezuela or Thailand!!!



BTW Zippy, your spelling sucks!!

 

There is a reason that no team (outside the Prem.) want Owen/Rooney/Crouch. None of these players are good strikers. If England had just 1 quality striker that match would have been a different story.

Owen may have been out of form, but he really hasn't been in form since 2001 anyways. His days are over its time to move on.

 

Did you notice one interesting thing in your list of players and transfer fees?

Only English clubs tend to pay those ridiculous amounts.. They probably don't know how to valuate a player...

 

hahahaha repped.