Elon Musk needs his own thread because he's in every damn thing

right?

 

lmao

 

The UAW can want things, but there is zero desire among Tesla employees to join the UAW. Tesla employees - even factory workers - are paid well and get stock grants. They're not going to vote to unionize and lose their stock.

Meanwhile, the UAW is trying to strongarm my wife's company to unionize the techs, who are also well paid and get stock. They're not talking about any benefits for the workers, but they said they would talk to their contacts at the Department of Energy to ask them not to approve any grants to non-union companies. If the UAW wants to offer something good for the employees, let them compete, but they can't win over well paid California technicians that way, so they're instead playing political games to try to punish the companies.

 

Also a good call. Will people divest?

 

I agree with this from Orosz. The point here is obviously just to blame "the advertisers" for the collapse of the company. No one who wants Disney and co to come back would do this.

Publicly insulting advertisers means even fewer will advertise here because there is no upside if they are trashed later.

We know this guy understands business. He’s smart. So it’s clear he *wants* no major advertisers here & is doing everything to ensure this happens.

But why? https://t.co/T2XEWSXIMP

— Gergely Orosz (@GergelyOrosz) November 30, 2023

 

I started listening to Musk's entire IV at Dealbook

He repeats the conspiracy that jewish groups are funding groups that support Hamas

He comes across like a lunatic to be honest - it's goes down hill from telling bob iger to fck off

 

Seriously the board at Tesla is an absolute joke

 

It sounds like you don't know anyone who works at Tesla. I do. They don't want to join a union.

If the UAW was going to Tesla employees and saying "here's what we will do to make your work environment better and that's why you should vote to unionize", that's one thing, but the UAW is not doing that. They haven't offered anything, and if Tesla workers are feeling like they're not being taken care of, they can leave their jobs and get hired somewhere else very quickly. That may not be the case at the Tesla plants in Texas and Buffalo, but it is certainly the case here in the Bay Area and in Reno.

Elon said recently that if his workers vote to unionize, he would consider it a failure of his company. (link to Fortune article, behind paywall, with headline quoting Elon saying "If Tesla gets unionized it's because we deserve it"). The reality here in Silicon Valley is that unions haven't taken off here because employees generally quit if they're working for a bad employer - there are enough jobs and enough demand for workers with skills that workers can change jobs and generally get a pay raise instead of sticking with a bad employer and trying to make the employer do better by unionizing. Part of that is the California regulatory environment which is pro-worker - non-compete agreements are standard in many other states but are not legal in California, so workers can jump from company to company without worrying about violating a non-compete agreement, so companies have to treat workers well so the workers don't leave. Offering stock grants is another part of that.

So what is the UAW going to offer to get Tesla workers to join them?