Elon Musk needs his own thread because he's in every damn thing/positive Elon Musk

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  1. rslfanboy

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    Duuuuuuuuuuuude..... Stooooooooooooooooooooop.
     
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  2. Paul Berry

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    Because the market is going to move towards smaller, cheaper, more efficient, more durable, faster charging, more environmentally friendly, solid state batteries, for the limited EV market, and the even more limited market for 10 year-old EV models.

    363? Not in independent tests.
     
  3. NewDadaCoach

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    before telsa the market was "smaller, cheaper" and guess what it didn't work.

    elon came out with the $150k Model X fabrege egg and guess what that worked.

    it worked because you have to make EVs s3xy before they can go mainstream.
     
  4. Yoshou

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    #2354 Yoshou, Sep 5, 2024
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    Heh. You aren't wrong. But like I said, Tesla will continue to lead in US EV sales for at least the near future. For whatever reason, EV sales are very regional right now.

    I don't think you understand how little battery capacity matters. I've had an ID4 for about 2.5 years now and the only reason range matters is on long road trips and because Eastern Washington has a very sparsely populated charger network. Even then, there was only 1 trip in that time where I had to take an ICE due to range. For every other trip I've taken, the EV has worked just fine. Not only that, for the primary trips my family takes (commutes and trips around town) an EV is superior to ICE as I have a home charger, so never have to worry about stopping off at a gas station like I do with my ICE vehicle.

    Also, Tesla lost the lead in range and battery capacity last year some time.

    https://ev-database.org/cheatsheet/range-electric-car

    The roadster is extremely niche and won't sell many units. The model 2 is kind of vaporware at this point? Musk has been talking about it for several years, but nothing has really come of it, so far. They have, quite rightly, focused on refreshing their existing models. Which is actually part of the problem for Tesla keeping the lead it has.

    When it comes to consumer vehicles, Tesla is really just the model 3 and model Y and there really isn't plans to build any additional models. The Model S and X were largely killed by the model 3 and Y and Tesla has, essentially, abandoned the luxury segment to BMW, Mercedes, and Lucid.

    That also brings up another issue for Tesla. They seem to struggle with working on multiple projects at the same time and they basically wasted the last few years working on the cybertruck when they should have spent that time coming out with a model 2 and refreshing the Model S and Y.

    LOL. Solar panels and wall batteries are a rounding error in Tesla's revenue. Basically not even worth mentioning.

    While you aren't wrong, they are making that switch and are rapidly catching up to Tesla and, in some cases, surpassing it.
     
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  5. Yoshou

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    No EV gets the advertised range. ;) The only question is just how far off the advertised range is.
     
  6. ElNaranja

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    How else am I supposed to feel special than feeding a troll and watching them keep coming back?
     
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  7. NewDadaCoach

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    Elon needs to get the hell off twitter, he's on it all day!
    No way he can run any other company while he's doing this.

    He needs to resign from tesla and let someone else run it. Probably he's not involved much in the day to day anymore.

    Car companies should be bi-partisan. Most consumer products should.
     
  8. MattR

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    The main thing Tesla got right is being the early provider and the EV range.

    The main thing Tesla got wrong is going deep in debt to build factories frickin' everywhere.

    Oh, the the Cybertruck. That thing sucks.
     
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  9. Paul Berry

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    Better than the Roadster and the Semi.
     
  10. NewDadaCoach

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    I'm gonna go all in on $TSLA right before the election.

    If I lose I'll come on here and eat crow!
     
  11. spejic

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    RemindMe! 61 Days
     
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  12. rslfanboy

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    Hookers and blow! Duh.
     
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  13. Naughtius Maximus

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    Personally I think you and I should do it in a classic 'Putting the wolves in charge of the chickens' kinda thing.
     
  14. Naughtius Maximus

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    Zoe Williams asks the obvious question...

    Racism, misogyny, lies: how did X become so full of hatred? And is it ethical to keep using it?
    Ever since Elon Musk took over Twitter, I and many others have been looking for alternatives. Who wants to share a platform with the likes of Andrew Tate and Tommy Robinson?

    She makes the point that many have made on here...

    ...

    Musk’s commitment to free speech is jaw-droppingly unconvincing: he used it to reject Lula’s demands in Brazil, yet readily acceded to Narendra Modi’s demands in India, and suspended hundreds of accounts linked to farmers’ protests there in February this year.

    She also makes the point about how difficult the issue of free speech is to handle, particularly in the states where the matter seems to be decided by documents drawn up hundreds of years ago in an age which was completely different....

    Global civil society, though, finds it incredibly difficult to reject the free speech argument out of hand, because the alternative is so dark: that a number of billionaires – not just Musk but also Thiel with Rumble, Parler’s original backer, Rebekah Mercer (daughter of Robert Mercer, funder of Breitbart), and, indirectly, billionaire sovereign actors such as Putin – are successfully changing society, destroying the trust we have in each other and in institutions. It’s much more comfortable to think they’re doing that by accident, because they just love “free speech”, than that they’re doing that on purpose. “Part of understanding the neo-reactionary and ‘dark enlightenment’ movements, is that these individuals don’t have any interest in the continuation of the status quo,” Mulhall says.

    “In some jurisdictions,” Saperia says, “what sovereigns do and what billionaires do are quite related.” You can see that in Russia where, Mulhall says, “Putin is happy to use the state to manipulate social media to create polarisation – that’s been pretty much proven”. But where tech and politics aren’t aligned, politics doesn’t tend to come out on top. Governments look pretty powerless in the face of these massive tech companies. “Race hatred and attempted murder is incubated on these platforms,” Mulhall says, “and people don’t even think it’s possible to get Musk in front of parliament.”
     
  15. The Devil's Architect

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    El Zorro Plateado
     
  16. NewDadaCoach

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    What about me Naughtius? Can I join too????
     
  17. Naughtius Maximus

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    Is that gonna be our partnership name? Y'know, like Butch and Sundance, Batman and Robin or Tom and Jerry?
     
  18. roby

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    Andy and Nosher sounds about right! :cautious:

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  19. Hayaka

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    I always wondered as a kid why my local paper ran Andy Capp in the comics. Never funny, and it was about a bunch of foreigners.
     
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  20. roby

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    Why one shouldn't go to Garden Parties....

    But it's all right now
    I learned my lesson well
    You see, you can't please everyone
    So you got to please yourself :whistling:

    RIP...Rickey
     
  21. Paul Berry

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    Also it's written in a regional English dialect that the rest of England finds difficult to follow.
     
  22. charlie15

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    Can we call this dude a fascist now?


    “Elon Musk’s America PAC is starting to fire up its digital ad campaign in support of Donald Trump’s presidential bid. The messages so far have been targeted at swing-state voters — and are anything but subtle,” Bloombergreports.

    From one ad: “If you sit this election out, Kamala and the crazies will win. You will be stuck with higher costs and more illegals invading our country.”
     
  23. Paul Berry

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    Musk is a crazy immigrant.
     
  24. Black Moped

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    I have a Chevy Bolt and the range is listed at 259 by the EPA but it routinely says on my dash that I have over 300 miles left when I charge it to 85%. Now I don't know if that's true because I never let it get before 30% but the Bolt has gotten over 500 miles in a test

    https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/05/2023-chevy-bolt-euv-sets-560-mile-range-world-record/
     
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  25. Naughtius Maximus

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    Maybe that's how he knows?
     

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